Keep HR and hiring teams to the bare minimum. In the scaleups I've worked for, HR got scaled first. And therefore became more powerful than any other department. HR people get hired by the dozen, get bored, and start creating work like 'self reviews', 'peer reviews', 'yearly goals', etc... on top of scrum. Bonkers.
No management needed: anti-patterns in early-stage engineering teams
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Re: No management needed: anti-patterns in early-stage engineering teams
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While I support mostly liberal causes - I consider myself a liberal not a leftists - like an increased social safety net, universal healthcare etc, unions are just a bridge too far. But me personally, at 51, I have said before that I plan to go by the Ben Kenobi strategy. When things get too bad, my wife and I will just become hermits somewhere and when the evil empire comes looking for us just give up and die. We ar…
How is an increased social safety net a liberal policy? Most liberal parties in Europe want to lower taxes / social-security payments. (see FDP, NEOS, etc.)
Those are considered left policies in the US.
Re: No management needed: anti-patterns in early-stage engineering teams
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My former company had the brilliant idea to outsource native app development to india. This was mabye 2015 in germany and they tried to roll out the app for several years. There were severe communication and quality problems. Our company wasted massive time on it, until they finally added a single native app dev and we started making progress. We already had like 30 people in tech department and adding a single posit…
I’ve worked with great engineers from India/Pakistan. I didn’t hire them, so don’t know too much about the process of how to find them but they were definitely as good as anyone I’ve seen in Europe.
The floor is much lower, but the ceiling can be the same-ish on a case-by-case basis. That's been my experience as well.
Re: No management needed: anti-patterns in early-stage engineering teams
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Yep, if you were to watch what happens at a 996 shop, it's people literally living their at-home life with their fellow employees for most of the time.
Why is this theater kept up?
It's societal. I don't really have a way I can translate it for someone raised in the Western culture.
Counter example:
While westerners would look at 996 with confusion, Chinese would look at Western "intellectual property" constructs with confusion. To them it's not "copying", it's they figured out a better way to do it and the rest is fair game.
Re: No management needed: anti-patterns in early-stage engineering teams
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> There's no such "reason" You share that with no justification.
It stands to reason that if gravity can make things fall down, it can make things fall up. It stands to reason that if an earthquake can collapse a building that it can build one. It stands to reason that if rat poison can kill rats then it can make them stronger. ("reason" left to be worked out by the reader as an exercise)
It stands to reason that if someone makes an argument you can make a strawman against it.
In this thread, a manager is compared to earthquakes, ratpoison and gravity… which has fuck all to do with management.
Come on…just say if you don’t like something, like “I don’t like managers and you can’t change my mind.” Be fucking honest for a minute.
Have some god damn conviction instead of this weaksauce shit. Interpersonal relationships are obviously not subject to the laws of thermodynamics.
Re: No management needed: anti-patterns in early-stage engineering teams
#346Re: No management needed: anti-patterns in early-stage engineering teams
#347Earlier quoted context omitted.
Until recently American engineers made a lot of money at comparatively cushy jobs. A decent engineer in the US could make 5x their equivalent in most European nations. Staff+ engineers at FAANG could make 5x that. People in a good position tend to not like rocking the boat.
Not just that, but the union would likely end up capping their salary much lower so the wealth can be spread around. How hard is the 10x engineer on the team going to work when the compensation is the same regardless? This is where people end up working multiple jobs, if they can keep up with their peers only working one day per week.
>Not just that, but the union would likely end up capping their salary much lower so the wealth can be spread around
My union have never done that, why would it?
Re: No management needed: anti-patterns in early-stage engineering teams
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Why the fuck would an union cap anyones salary? Is this an American thing? Over here the purpose of unions is to: Provide a strong enough legal response and guidance to deter companies from trying shady shit, pay better unemployment fees than the government and provide training/networking. They also negotiate collectively with the employers on behalf of everyone for things like paid sick leave, paid vacations etc. I…
Seeing the wage difference in Europe and the UK even for enterprise developers let alone those who work for major (mostly American based ) tech companies, is not a rousing endorsement for unions for developers
Thats an extremely simplistic view of things? All else is equal? Why do you think that is a product of unions?
Re: No management needed: anti-patterns in early-stage engineering teams
#349Earlier quoted context omitted.
lol good luck. Both of those are way harder than paying union dues. And there's no guarantee the empire won't find you wherever you go. War is an excellent counter to inequality, it works much better than progressive taxation or collective bargaining.
It’s a lot easier when you make 3x the comp of the average developer in the EU and I am not even in BigTech (anymore). I can absolutely guarantee you that the average enterprise CRUD developer living in a 2nd tier US city is better off than a developer in the EU. Let alone the top 10-20% working in BigTech or equivalent.
Have you factored in healthcare costs, welfare (if you ever need that), childcare/kindergarten costs, benefit of living in a safe society, sick leave, holiday, worker protection, better work/life balance etc when you say better off?
Re: No management needed: anti-patterns in early-stage engineering teams
#350Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why the fuck would an union cap anyones salary? Is this an American thing? Over here the purpose of unions is to: Provide a strong enough legal response and guidance to deter companies from trying shady shit, pay better unemployment fees than the government and provide training/networking. They also negotiate collectively with the employers on behalf of everyone for things like paid sick leave, paid vacations etc. I…
>Why the fuck would an union cap anyones salary? Is this an American thing? Huh? If you have a collective agreement, all the compensation ranges are written down there. You get level 11 comp contract and your manager puts you at 85% of the scale, then the union decides the scale goes from say 85k to 95k. The next time the agreement is renegotiated, the scale gets bumped to 90k to 100k and you can't get past 100k unti…
So it is an american thing. It seems like your unions do a lot of weird stuff, and then you just accept it as its an universal rule.