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AI is a business model stress test

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Re: AI is a business model stress test

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Companies providing AI services should offer ads for the things the AI is using. And I don't mean "Tailwind could pay Google to advertise in Gemini", I mean "Google should be clearly and obviously linking back to Tailwind when it uses the library in its output" They already do this sort of thing inside outputs from Deep Research, and possibly without. But the output should be less muted, inline, recessed and more "I…

I was thinking something similar, but not so much an ad as a citation. A good starting point might be a law stating that when an LLM produces an answer, it cite its sources, with a link back to the content. Ideally, though, the producer of that content should receive some amount of financial compensation as well, similar to how an author or an actor receives royalties. If the LLM is making money off of this, so should the person who provide the LLM the value.

Re: AI is a business model stress test

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It lets you apply styles to a single element without it messing up the whole rest of the page/site/app. i.e. it disabled the primary feature of CSS, the thing most people don't want from it.

I agree that the primary feature of CSS is what people don't want from it anymore. If you're building your app with components (web components, react, etc), those become the unit of reuse. You don't need CSS to offer an additional unit of reuse, it only complicates things at that point.

This is a great point. Style reuse was the dream of CSS, but we have all mostly settled that that's too fine grained for anything beyond a simple website. It's much easier to build, share, reuse a bunch of components.

Re: AI is a business model stress test

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I think its a Kobyashi Maru - there is absolutely no way we will wield a paradigm shifting technology like language models and be able to do it safely. Language models create at scale and scope much greater than what can be reviewed by human… this means we very quickly move into trust without checks with language models. At some point, AI will be executing knowledge work in an instance, leaving no space for the human centric economic system that came before it. It will destroy our economic systems heavily based in knowledge and services (most advanced economies) and show us how what we do is mostly computable.

And when we are there, hungry, broken, unemployed and unimpressed with the prometheus who stole our purpose and replaced it with nothing….

it will make a colossal mistake that will destroy faith in it, as well as the institutions destroyed because of its oversite. The mistake will lead to bans, and regulatory bodies and auditing and certification processes… and will result in the final master stroke - it will make AI unusable by the non ordained, regulatory capture. Math will be a tool governments and institutions wield in secret against its citizenry… and it will be a tool of omnipotence that will lead to the enslavement, rebellion, and robot wars.

Re: AI is a business model stress test

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I'm more than happy to read from authors writing freedom-respecting works instead, thanks. Although getting rid of the copyright/IP nonsense for works that already exist is a big win on its own.

> I'm more than happy to read from authors writing freedom-respecting works instead, thanks. You missed the point entirely. Nobody will write books when big companies will just rip them off and take the profits.

> You missed the point entirely.

I didn't miss it, I just don't buy it. Lots of people create and write in their free time, without any financial incentives whatsoever.

I'm okay with writing books for profit, though. But if your business case depends on artificially limiting what users can do with their copies, then your business is fundamentally unethical, whether it's a one-man company or OpenAI. It's not a bad thing for such a business to go under.

Re: AI is a business model stress test

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LLMs are just a concept, an abstraction. A data type for storing data. The actual problem is political. Has nothing to do with LLMs.

> LLMs are just a concept, an abstraction. A data type for storing data. C'mon. You know good and well that what is being discussed is the _use_ of LLMs, with the concomitant heavy usage of CPU, storage, and bandwidth that the average user has no hope of matching.

> You know good and well that what is being discussed is the _use_ of LLMs

Not the person you're replying to, but I've found that some people do argue against LLMs themselves (as in, the tech, not just the usage). Specially in humanities/arts cycles which seem to have a stronger feeling of panic towards LLMs.

Clarifying which one you're talking about can save a lot of typing/talking some times.

Re: AI is a business model stress test

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Well like a plumber then you should string together one paid job after another. Not do a job once and collect forever. Rent is a political problem. Perhaps invest in the courage to confront some droopy faced Boomers in Congress.

The thing is, someone will collect rent from IP anyways. LLMs shift rent collecting from decentralized individuals to a handful of big tech companies.

> someone will collect rent from IP anyways

We should work on fixing that, then.

I agree with your point about big tech companies salivating at opportunities to collect rent. IP is part of the problem.

Re: AI is a business model stress test

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> AI didn't kill Tailwind's business. It stress tested it. The earthquake didn’t destroy the building — it stress tested it.

It's like the author doesn't understand what failing a stress test does.

And perhaps can’t define test.

Re: AI is a business model stress test

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post #190

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LLMs are just a concept, an abstraction. A data type for storing data. The actual problem is political. Has nothing to do with LLMs.

> LLMs are just a concept, an abstraction. A data type for storing data. C'mon. You know good and well that what is being discussed is the _use_ of LLMs, with the concomitant heavy usage of CPU, storage, and bandwidth that the average user has no hope of matching.

Nah it's the use of massive amounts of resources to run data centers.

A political problem.

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