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Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by justsomehnguy »

dgrin91 wrote: post #330
helloaltalt wrote: post #68

marcosdumay's comment of here explained situation (giving it more attention) they can censor IPv4 when they want, but they don't know how to censor IPv6. So they block it entirely. This is the reason why they aren't blacking out IPv4 From my own experience, my ex gf was iranian. She was using discord via some psiphon vpn or something iirc idk how she got access to it but she had it. I didn't trust psiphon that much s…

> they can censor IPv4 when they want, but they don't know how to censor IPv6 I'm curious why this is the case? As far as I know the primary benefits of v6 is just the increased address space. Does it provide any privacy benefits? What would prevent Iran from doing the same censorship?

Just DPI hardware not supporting IPv6.

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Post by Yizahi »

twelvedogs wrote: post #324
Yizahi wrote: post #277

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cheaper to launch a barrel of metal trash to the Starlink orbits. Or a few barrels. Iran has rockets for that.

you might be able to hit one but it'd be pretty impressive, like firing a bullet and hitting someone in another country impressive

I'm not a rocket scientist, but I guess even a single lunch in the retrograde direction should be enough. You lunch a box of ball bearings with a plastic explosive to spread them out, and then just wait. The cloud will pass over Iran every 12h or and will stay in orbit for quite a few weeks, since the orbit is even higher than ISS reboosting once a month, and balls are highly aerodynamic compared to the Starlink flat sails. The cloud won't be very big, but it will repeatedly swipe through quite a lot intersecting prograde orbits. I guess the chance would be quite high. Iran can also split payload into smaller boxes and "deploy" then in sequence while the second stage is firing, then detonate them, to spread out even more.

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Post by JasonADrury »

nfriedly wrote: post #205
null_deref wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you provide a source for this claim?

Not the person you asked, but here's a couple of sources that back that claim: https://www.newsweek.com/russia-starlink-ukraine-gur-elon-mu... https://kyivindependent.com/nearly-half-of-usaid-starlink-te... Also, as I understand it, a big part of the reason USAID was fed "into the woodchipper" was because they were investigating SpaceX over Russian use of Starlink - see https://gizmodo.com/elon-musks-enemy-usaid-was-…

>Also, as I understand it, a big part of the reason USAID was fed "into the woodchipper" was because they were investigating SpaceX over Russian use of Starlink - see https://gizmodo.com/elon-musks-enemy-usaid-was-investigating...

The article you linked contains literally nothing supporting your accusation. Instead, it talks about an investigation targeting the aid recipient:

>The USAID Office of Inspector General, Inspections and Evaluations Division, is initiating an inspection of USAID’s oversight of Starlink satellite terminals provided to the Government of Ukraine. Our objectives are to determine how (1) the Government of Ukraine used the USAID-provided Starlink terminals, and (2) USAID monitored the Government of Ukraine’s use of USAID-provided Starlink terminals

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by [deleted] »

falaki wrote: post #30

Fortunately, the government cannot enforce complete blackout because thousands of startlink terminals are active inside the country. They have been complaining about it [1] to no avail. Using these terminals activists and journalists continue to upload videos of demonstrations to social media which has enabled analyses that show demonstrations are very wide spread [2] and continue to grow. [1] https://www.itu.int/en/…

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Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by lxgr »

some_bird wrote: post #218
Noaidi wrote: post #155

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Destroy the satellites? I mean all that have to do is screw up the trajectory of some of the satellites to cause exponential collisions...

Ah yes, Kessler's space shredder, something to be feared by all satellites! It appears that we are very close to an unstoppable runaway process of collisions in space. On one hand, nice that we prevent rich guys from running away to other planets after ruining this one. On the other hand, a lot of services require GPS, it would be chaos if that were to disappear...

> On one hand, nice that we prevent rich guys from running away to other planets

Kessler syndrome has little to no effect on trajectories only briefly transiting any given orbital shell. The collision probability of anything going straight "up"/"out" is negligible.

> On the other hand, a lot of services require GPS

GPS is in MEO, Starlink is in LEO. There's absolutely no chance any material will be propelled up to MEO via a series of even very unlucky LEO collisions, as far as I know.

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by throw0101d »

mcintyre1994 wrote: post #74
zamadatix wrote: post #65

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The original claim: > The biography, due out on Tuesday, alleges Musk ordered Starlink engineers to turn off service in the area of the attack because of his concern that Vladimir Putin would respond with nuclear weapons to a Ukrainian attack on Russian-occupied Crimea. He is reported to have said that Ukraine was “going too far” in threatening to inflict a “strategic defeat” on the Kremlin. The amendment on the arti…

They link to their updated reporting: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/sep/12/elon-musk-biog... > On Friday, Isaacson tweeted a clarification, writing that “the Ukrainians THOUGHT coverage was enabled all the way to Crimea, but it was not. They asked Musk to enable it for their drone sub attack on the Russian fleet. Musk did not enable it, because he thought, probably correctly, that would cause a major war.” >…

In July 2025 Reuters re-upped the claim of the shutdown:

> KYIV - During a pivotal push by Ukraine to retake territory from Russia in late September 2022, Elon Musk gave an order that disrupted the counteroffensive and dented Kyiv’s trust in Starlink, the satellite internet service the billionaire provided early in the war to help Ukraine’s military maintain battlefield connectivity.

> “We have to do this,” Michael Nicolls, the Starlink engineer, told colleagues upon receiving the order, one of these people said. Staffers complied, the three people told Reuters, deactivating at least a hundred Starlink terminals, their hexagon-shaped cells going dark on an internal map of the company’s coverage. The move also affected other areas seized by Russia, including some of Donetsk province further east.

[…]

> After the book was published, Musk denied a shutdown, saying that there had never been coverage in Crimea to begin with. He said he had, rather, rejected a Ukrainian request to provide service ahead of Kyiv’s planned attack. Isaacson later conceded his account was flawed. A spokesperson at Isaacson’s publisher declined to comment or make him available for an interview.

[…]

> As Ukraine’s counterattack intensified, Russian President Vladimir Putin on September 21, 2022, ordered a partial mobilization of reservists, Russia’s first since World War II. He also threatened to use nuclear weapons if Russia’s own “territorial integrity” were at risk. Around this time, Musk engaged in weeks of backchannel conversations with senior officials in the administration of President Joe Biden, according to three former U.S. government officials and one of the people familiar with Musk’s order to stop service. During those conversations, the former White House staffer told Reuters, U.S. intelligence and security officials expressed concern that Putin could follow through on his threats. Musk, this person added, worried too, and asked U.S. officials if they knew where and how Ukraine used Starlink on the battlefield.

> Soon after, he ordered the shutdown.

* https://www.reuters.com/investigations/musk-ordered-shutdown...

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by lostlogin »

falaki wrote: post #47
tuhgdetzhh wrote: post #45

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Isn't it possible to jam the starlink receiver?

I hear after the Ukraine war, Starlink became very good at thwarting jamming. I am confident the Iranians are not as sophisticated as the Russians in than front.

> Starlink became very good at thwarting jamming.

Musk proved quite good at blocking Ukrainian Starlink access too, supporting Russia.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66752264

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Post by lostlogin »

TiredOfLife wrote: post #202
null_deref wrote: post #165

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Can you provide a source for this claim?

Just the latest one https://x.com/bayraktar_1love/status/2009240533944947050

Twitter is a good source for this sort of evidence. It’s Musk, all the way down.

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Post by FilosofumRex »

perching_aix wrote: post #322
FilosofumRex wrote: post #189

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that would make it much more suspicious the protests are being orchestrated from outside by CIA/Mossad... The "regime" is a republic with regularly held presidential (8 presidents in 45 years) and parliamentary elections. What would you like to replace it with? Monarchy

> The "regime" is a republic with regularly held presidential (8 presidents in 45 years) and parliamentary elections. I'd think the regime thing refers to the Supreme Leader of 36 years and his Guardian Council, no?

so are kings of England, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Spain, Netherlands & Arabia.

The Guardian Council is an elected body with the power to remove the so-called "Supreme Leader", so his power is limited too and is not hereditary, unlike monarchies of Europe and Asia

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