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Post by victorbjorklund »

jaimie wrote: post #191
TheSkyHasEyes wrote: post #163

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> Modern society totally devalues anything considered even slightly old. Mild counterpoint. Our professions(all things IT) moves bloody fast. If I were looking for info on cooking, baking, knitting sure... but IT stuff, I opine many of us seek the latest info because of the breakneck speeds this profession is known for.

Does it though? I mean I'm still teaching thread-safety and recursion to my interns... a solid foundation is a solid foundation.

But are you teaching the basics of programming with 30 year old textbooks? Can you learn the principles of web dev by building like they did 30 years ago? Sure. But it will be a pain in the ass vs using something that is up to date.

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Post by elric »

nickjj wrote: post #83

I was a Udemy instructor for ~10 years selling tech courses but focused more on delivering courses through my own site for the last ~5-6 years. Something never felt right with how Udemy promoted courses. I used to have a top selling course there, selling thousands of copies a month and now it gets basically no sales but it's still one of the highest rated courses in that niche on their platform. It's just no longer r…

Can I ask what your tech stack is for creating courses? Or is that a trade secret?

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Post by johanyc »

sharadov wrote: post #35

Both have garbage content at this point - Coursera was great when they launched, top quality material and university-level instruction. Now it's just bottom of the barrel scraps. YT has tons of quality instruction - hell nowadays I just ask an LLM to make me a course for whatever I wanna learn.

Yeah. And the a lot of coursera courses offered by universities are dumbed down. I much prefer going to Youtube and watch open courses there.

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Post by ghaff »

Andrex wrote: post #279
ghaff wrote: post #165

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And you probably don't have the chops to write screenplays like Aaron Sorkin and almost certainly won't develop them from a video.

You're probably gonna need to chip a few blocks on your own before asking Michelangelo for pointers.

Pretty much. This idea that you can never have done something and get something from a Masterworks is a bit silly. Inside the Actors Studio was great but essentially entertainment. As something that's likely to give any real insight into things you're missing, you probably need to have some experience first.

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Post by gremlinunderway »

inetknght wrote: post #207
dijit wrote: post #151

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“why is I/O in docker slow, and how would you improve it” is pretty esoteric knowledge now, but would have been considered basic knowledge (for other applications, not specifically just docker) only 12 years ago. I have had people working who don’t in the slightest understand how a filesystem works, so taking it a step further is impossible. When I tune things I am asked how I know, but everything is just built from…

> I have had people working who don’t in the slightest understand how a filesystem works, so taking it a step further is impossible. It's as if computer science, in terms of data structures and algorithms, isn't taught. Or, perhaps, isn't taught as being relevant. As for lack of knowledge about filesystems: it might be contributed by mobile devices hiding real filesystems from users. > the basics don’t make you feel…

and in fairness to the mobile devices thing of abstracting file systems, when it comes to discoverability and organizing files or documents, a rigid hierarchy of nested sub-folders is far inferior to a single directory with tagging or other metadata properties you can use to filter and essentially build custom directories on the fly with.

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Post by BeetleB »

vintermann wrote: post #320
pxc wrote: post #267

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How is malicious compliance the fault of someone who asks for disability accomodations? It is unfortunate that the ADA is designed so that the only mechanism of enforcement of disability rights is lawsuits. :-\ Maybe there should be some exceptions around things provided on a "best-effort" basis, if they can be very carefully crafted.

Many interest groups in the US are for hire. Meaning, if you don't like a piece of upcoming legislation, you can give them a donation and they'll find out a way the upcoming legislation hurts their demographic. These groups have overwhelmingly passive members, who don't run the organization in any meaningful way. There are even more mercenary groups, whose business model is basically extorting organizations for donat…

> It seems pretty likely to me that NAD's lawsuits are more about this, and less about actually caring about deaf access. There are a lot of them, and they seem to go for big pockets. Probably the efforts Berkeley went to to offer accessibility would have been deemed good enough to not sue over (for now) if they had donated.

It's a convenient narrative. Here's another one: Senior administrator at the university doesn't like the project. It costs money to provide as it is, and money is always tight at a public university. They should be more focused on income generating patents (which, BTW, UC Berkeley is/was good at). And now they want us to spend even more money? Let's kill the project.

I spent a long time at universities, and I also worked for 1.5 years in the university's disability division, so I somewhat know the needs of the disabled. Part of that division's role was "policing" professors' course pages (albeit only when a student complained), so I'm familiar with the territory. Our position was clear: It's the law.

I also know how university administrator's think - they rarely like initiatives meant for the public good for free.

Finally: How much money did they make suing UC Berkeley? Did anyone (other than the lawyers) make money out of it? Why are people so certain this was a money grabbing lawsuit?

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Post by malfist »

locknitpicker wrote: post #338
bcjdjsndon wrote: post #336

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> In ten years you'll see greybeards complaining that new kids don't know shit about React fundamentals. Nah you won't. Js frameworks comme and go all the time

> Nah you won't. Js frameworks comme and go all the time React was released 12 years ago, and since then a few React clones popped up as well such as Preact.

React occupies a very similar place today as angular did back in the day, and angular is on life support, if that.

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Post by Blackthorn »

komali2 wrote: post #251
azangru wrote: post #52

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> Those courses that were basically “we’re a top university and we let someone record the class from the back” were a literal life changer. Honestly, that was all I wanted. Does anyone remember what happened to UC Berkeley? They had a lot of their courses recorded and uploaded to youtube; an absolute joy. Then, some [beep] sued them for not making the recording accessible enough, i.e. not providing captions alongside…

It got archived https://archive.is/D1Ail

Where is the archive available for use?

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

BeetleB wrote: post #346
vintermann wrote: post #320

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many interest groups in the US are for hire. Meaning, if you don't like a piece of upcoming legislation, you can give them a donation and they'll find out a way the upcoming legislation hurts their demographic. These groups have overwhelmingly passive members, who don't run the organization in any meaningful way. There are even more mercenary groups, whose business model is basically extorting organizations for donat…

> It seems pretty likely to me that NAD's lawsuits are more about this, and less about actually caring about deaf access. There are a lot of them, and they seem to go for big pockets. Probably the efforts Berkeley went to to offer accessibility would have been deemed good enough to not sue over (for now) if they had donated. It's a convenient narrative. Here's another one: Senior administrator at the university doesn…

If I wrote something for my own use and decided to open source it and then someone hypothetically decided to sue me because it wasn’t accessible, I would say f%%%. them too and take it down.

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Post by secabeen »

azangru wrote: post #52
torben-friis wrote: post #27

As someone who had to drop out of school in the 2008 crisis (family trouble), I owe a good chunk of my learning to the first era of online teaching. Those courses that were basically “we’re a top university and we let someone record the class from the back” were a literal life changer. Honestly, that was all I wanted. Everything that came after has been substantially worse. Work is gamified, teachers spend more time…

> Those courses that were basically “we’re a top university and we let someone record the class from the back” were a literal life changer. Honestly, that was all I wanted. Does anyone remember what happened to UC Berkeley? They had a lot of their courses recorded and uploaded to youtube; an absolute joy. Then, some [beep] sued them for not making the recording accessible enough, i.e. not providing captions alongside…

It's going to get worse, ADA Title II updates require that by April 2026 all PDFs and documents be used by UCB be accessible to the WCAG 2.1 AA standard. I expect a lot of third-party content currently hosted on University of California websites will go away.

https://dap.berkeley.edu/documents-forms/pdfs

https://dap.berkeley.edu/ada-title-ii-updates/title-ii-ada-w...

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