They had a scheduled maintenance between 7am and 11am UTC in Chicago. But that should have re-routed traffic not take down internet right?
I'm in India and we're affected as well.
Oceania here gang and i think that it is a global issue
Cloudflare was down
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Re: Cloudflare was down
#342So, I understand correctly that all websites and services want protection from DDoS attacks, and that's basically their number one concern. The second is caching in different parts of the world. So, it's caching and DDoS. But at the same time, nobody wants to use CloudFront from AWS because it’s not that simple yet. And it’s more expensive, while Cloudflare is free. So, what should we do about all this? This won’t do…
Nobody is being forced to use Cloudflare
Everyone trying to access a site behind Cloudflare is forced.
Re: Cloudflare was down
#343Earlier quoted context omitted.
How about: internet that is actually decentralized.
Yes, on one hand, it was so wonderful. Cloudflare came and said, "Yeah, now we'll save everyone from DDoS, everything's perfect, we'll speed up your site," and bam, they became a bottleneck for the entire internet. It's some kind of nightmare. Why didn't several other such popular startups appear, into which more money was invested, and which would allow some failure points to be created? I don't understand this. Or…
> Why didn't several other such popular startups appear
bunny.net
fastly.com
gcore.com
keycdn.com
Cloudfront
Probably some more I forgot now. CF is not the only option and definitely not the best option.
> Yeah, now we'll save everyone from DDoS, everything's perfect, we'll speed up your site,
... and host the providers selling DDoS services. https://privacy-pc.com/articles/spy-jacking-the-booters.html
Re: Cloudflare was down
#344Re: Cloudflare was down
#345Earlier quoted context omitted.
hmm... https://downdetectorsdowndetector.com/ (edit: it's working now (detecting downdetector's down))
So, This one is green: https://downdetectorsdowndetector.com This one is not openning: https://downdetectorsdowndetectorsdowndetector.com This one is red: https://downdetectorsdowndetectorsdowndetectorsdowndetector....
Lol. The fact that the 4x one actually works and is correctly reporting that the 3x one is down actually makes this a lot funnier to me.
Re: Cloudflare was down
#346The site is back up, but it feels fairly silly that a platform that has inserted itself as a single point of failure has an architecture that's got single points of failure. The other companies working at that scale have all sensibly split off into geographical regions & product verticals with redundancy & it's rare that "absolutely all of AWS everywhere is offline". This is two total global outages in as many weeks…
Crop monoculture created the potato famine. We failed to learn the larger lesson. "Hyperscale" is inherently dangerous.
Re: Cloudflare was down
#347Some of the sites I maintain, are fine. But I'm guessing it's just a matter of time?
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#348Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is a good reminder for everyone to reconsider making all of their websites depend on a single centralized point of failure. There are many alternatives to the different services which Cloudflare offers.
But the nature of a CDN and most other products CF offers, is central by nature. If you switch from CF to the next CF competitor, you've not improved this dependency. The alternative here, is complex or even non-existing. Complex would be some system that allows you to hotswap a CDN, or to have fallback DDOS protection services, or to build you own in-house. Which, IMO, is the worst to do if your business is elsewher…
You can load-balance between CDN vendors as well
Re: Cloudflare was down
#349Wonder if supabase auth down is also related https://status.supabase.com/incidents/rgz3dl2rcmq8
Will it be down for 10 days again? Who knows. Would've stopped using it after the first 10 day outage anyway.
Re: Cloudflare was down
#350For us also Digital Ocean, Render, and a few other vendors are down. At this point picking vendors that don't use Cloudflare in any way becomes the right thing to do.
Claude was also down (which brought me here)