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Someone at YouTube Needs Glasses: The Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled

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Post by ImPostingOnHN »

JAlexoid wrote: post #248
jemmyw wrote: post #235

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> You know that when a public pace of business has "No dogs" sign and you enter it, that you entered into a contract with that business You are incorrect about that, which probably invalidates your other arguments. A condition of entry is not a contract. If you disobey the condition of entry then you have not broken a contract, and nothing changes between you and the business owner. They can ask you to leave and they…

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If you bring a dog in, you cannot be sued for any sort of tort relating to breach of contract. At most, you could be asked to leave, trespassed if you refuse, and sued for damages if the dog broke something or someone.

Please don't attack others, and in general, it's not a good idea to use terms like Dunning-Kruger when you are incorrect. Ad blocking is not piracy under any statuatory or case law, period.

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Post by HDThoreaun »

komali2 wrote: post #320
HDThoreaun wrote: post #315

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This is how I feel about claiming that stealing from YouTube isn’t actually stealing. Juvenile nonsense. That’s why I came up with a nonsense counter argument

Negative proof. We've no obligation to prove your point for you. You claim we're stealing. In Texas, theft is a crime per Sec. 31.03: > THEFT. (a) A person commits an offense if he unlawfully appropriates property with intent to deprive the owner of property. Please link the law, and jurisdiction, that is broken when I view a YouTube video and don't view the ad. https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/Docs/PE/htm/PE.31.ht…

I don’t give a shit about laws. Common sense and morality are what matter to me and taking without paying will always be stealing according to both. I’m not trying to prove anything to you, other than how juvenile it is to hide behind laws and technicalities I guess.

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Post by taftster »

komali2 wrote: post #316
chrneu wrote: post #206

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Very US centric take here. Ya know there are other countries, languages, etc out there, right?

All of the websites I listed are in Mandarin for me and have content catered towards local fetishes. I have no idea what you're talking about.

I saw "Mandarin" and "local fetishes" and thinking I'm glad I have no idea what you're talking about, too!

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Post by usefulcat »

foobarian wrote: post #244
Lerc wrote: post #150

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I don't think it is piracy. Most advertising supported content is made freely available to you with the expectation that you will view the advertising. That expectation is not a contract and was a decision made without your involvement. You have no obligation to perform to someone else's expectations. If the content is made freely available you are free to watch it whichever way you choose. Choosing not to view the a…

Morally, it is piracy IMO. If you applied the rule universally, the site would go out of business and then there would be no video to see.

No one if forcing them to use ads for revenue; they could choose to start charging directly for the content. Seems to be working ok for Netflix.

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Post by stack_framer »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #12

I used to pay for YouTube premium. I stopped doing that, uninstalled the apps, and now use it through the browser with adblockers. (Yes, on my phone and iPad.) It works so well I’ve gotten at least half a dozen neighbours to do the same. If you haven’t tried it, it’s a definitive step up in UX.

I also stopped using the YouTube app in favor of the Brave browser on my desktop and my Android phone (no extensions needed). I can't remember the last time I saw an ad on YouTube!

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Post by riffraff »

R_D_Olivaw wrote: post #230
aidenn0 wrote: post #193

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Anyone else notice that most youtube ads are really bad . Seeing a product in a youtube ad now causes me to be more likely to believe it's a ripoff. Things like a cheap $5 fan being sold for $60 as roughly: "Super efficient A/C that will save you $100s on your electricity bill and can cool a room down in just minutes"

When ai slop makes it cheap to churn out the ads this is what you get. What does YT care, they get the money either way. Enshittification continues

what I don't understand is how paying for YT ads can be profitable. I've never clicked on a YT ad _intentionally_ nor I know anyone who did, having asked a few people. I admit the brand awareness works tho.

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Post by cloudflare728 »

PaulHoule wrote: post #15

They’re catching up with the recommendation technology China had 5 years ago.

HN typically use the word "steal" when Chinese companies do the same thing from American or European companies.

It's taking them 5 years stealing Chinese algorithms.

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Post by 1bpp »

charcircuit wrote: post #165
vitorgrs wrote: post #99

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There's no ads on Revanced...

Yes, there are. But there is a toggle to switch them on and off.

You're using a fake version that probably also has malware. https://revanced.app

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Post by climb_stealth »

auguzanellato wrote: post #98
climb_stealth wrote: post #78

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Hold on, there is a setting to switch to original audio. Just click the cog wheel on the video. The outrage over this seems completely overblown. Do people not see the setting to switch audio?

Not on web mobile frontend

Interesting! I did not realise this. Just checked and can't see it in that case either.

So, yeah, that's pretty bad.

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Post by ImPostingOnHN »

charcircuit wrote: post #177
schmuckonwheels wrote: post #120

It's difficult to capture into words how much contempt I hold for Google and Amazon, two companies which lost their way long ago and are now actively user-hostile. YouTube has gotten worse with every release. Endless, pointless UI changes. Sneaky resolution downgrades. When your video says "Auto 1080p" it's like 480p quality, manually choose 1080p and watch it change. Amazon has been working overtime to make your exp…

>entire energy is devoted to making their customer's lives more miserable If these changes are not hurting user metrics are they really making their lives miserable? When you are optimizing an experience for billions of users, numbers are the only thing you can trust.

> If these changes are not hurting user metrics

I suspect there is no metric specifically answering the question "do users want [enshittification of the day]?"

There are probably plenty that measure success with dark patterns however, like viewership and engagement.

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