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PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage

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Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage

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Oil and gas suppliers have several products: gas, diesel, jet a, propane, naptha, asphalt etc.

Aren't the proportions is those essentially static?

Cracking can turn heavier oil fractions into lighter oil fractions. It's a very common procedure.

Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage

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The thing is, on a ps5 you just open the game and it runs fine. On a PC you may have the bright idea to open a browser along with the game for walkthroughs/hints. Or Discord to chat with your friends while gaming. Due to javascript bloat, your working set size goes from 16 to 48-64 Gb in a jiffy.

That's still not a fair comparison, because on a console you don't have the option to do any of that.

It is a pretty fair comparison.

You do have the option to open up Discord voice chats on PS5. Amazing what Discord could do when forced to actually write something efficient.

Youtube also exists as an app, and maybe you can trick the heavily gimped built in browser to go there as well, although last I checked it wasn't trivial.

Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage

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There is absolutely no guarantee that those things will happen just because Claude takes your job. Taking your job doesn't require super-intelligence, it doesn't even require human-level intelligence. It requires just enough intelligence to pump out mediocre code that sort of works and being way cheaper to run than your pay. Super-intelligence is a completely different can of worms. But I'm not optimistic about super…

There is absolutely no guarantee that Claude takes your job either. But if you believe so much in AI, investing in it is accessible to pretty much any pocket, you don't have to be rich to partake. And when did "the rich" hoard anything for themselves only?! Usually I see them democratizing products and services so they are more accessible to everyone, not less. Computers in my pocket and on my wrist, TVs as big as a…

I feel like you're fighting the fallacy of "the rich" being collectively blamed for every problem, by giving them credit for everything instead.

We know that none of the goods you listed would be available to the masses unless there was profit to be gained from them. That's the point.

I have a hard time believing a large group being motivated and mutually benefiting towards progression of x thing would result in worse outcomes than a few doing so. We just have never had an economic system that could offer that, so you assume the greedy motivations of a few is the only path towards progress.

Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage

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post #293

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There is absolutely no guarantee that those things will happen just because Claude takes your job. Taking your job doesn't require super-intelligence, it doesn't even require human-level intelligence. It requires just enough intelligence to pump out mediocre code that sort of works and being way cheaper to run than your pay. Super-intelligence is a completely different can of worms. But I'm not optimistic about super…

There is absolutely no guarantee that Claude takes your job either. But if you believe so much in AI, investing in it is accessible to pretty much any pocket, you don't have to be rich to partake. And when did "the rich" hoard anything for themselves only?! Usually I see them democratizing products and services so they are more accessible to everyone, not less. Computers in my pocket and on my wrist, TVs as big as a…

Literally none of what you just said is true. All of those things happened because there was a market opportunity, there was a market opportunity because wealth was not just in the hands of the rich.

If you want to look at what historically has happened when the rich have had a sudden rapid increase in intelligence and labor, we have examples.

After the end of the Punic wars, the influx of slave labor and diminution of economic power of normal Roman citizens lead to: accelerating concentration of wealth, civil war and an empire where the value of human life was so low that people were murdered in public for entertainment.

Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage

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Advances in video cards and graphics tech were overwhelmingly driven by video games. John Carmack, for instance, was directly involved in these processes and 'back in the day' it wasn't uncommon for games, particularly from him, to be developed to run on tech that did not yet exist, in collaboration with the hardware guys. Your desktop was outdated after a year and obsolete after 2, so it was a very different time th…

> a good computer from 10 years ago can still do 99.9% of what people need, even things like high end gaming are perfectly viable with well dated cards. HN is strange. I have an old gaming build from 7-8 years ago and while it can do high end games on low settings and resolution, it doesn’t hold a candle to even a mid-range modern build. “viable” is doing a lot of work in that claim. You can tolerate it at low res an…

I'll take the absurd extreme end of my claim. Here [1] is a video of somebody running modern games on a GeForce GTX 1080 Ti, a card that was high end... 8 years ago. And he's doing it on high-ultra settings in 4k, and it's still doing fine. Spend a couple of hundred on a "new" video card and he'd be rocking a stable 60+FPS on everything, with some games he's still hitting that even with his card!

And back in the early 2000s, even bleeding edge current-year rigs would struggle with new games like Doom 3, Far Cry, Crysis, and so on. Hardware was advancing so rapidly that games were being built in anticipation of upcoming hardware, so you had this scenario where high end systems bought in one year would struggle with games released that year, let alone systems from 5-6 years prior.

Obviously if you're referencing CRPGs and the like, then yeah - absolutely anything could run them. The same remains even more true today. Baldur's Gate 3's minimum requirement is a GTX 970, a card more than 11 years old. Imagine a 1989 computer trying to run Baldur's Gate 2!

[1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRHjzDg_VHw

Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage

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Rent should not be more than 1/3 of your income so moving to an appropriate place will let that person save an extra 2k a month. It would take a year instead of a decade to have invested 24k.

> moving to an appropriate place like under a bridge or something? Pardon the hyperbole, but you would have to assume people with no disposable income are idiots in order to suggest that solution.

Maybe not idiots, but many humans are definitely not homo economicus rational actors.

Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage

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It's not like you need 64GB to have "democratized computation". We used to have 64MB and that was plenty. Unfortunately, software got slower more quickly than hardware got quicker.

> We used to have 64MB and that was plenty. Bullshit. It was cramped and I wasn't able to do half of what I was wanting to actually do. Maybe it was plenty for your usecases , but such a small amount of memory was weak for my needs in the late 90s and 2000s. 64MB desktops struggled to handle the photo manipulations I wanted to do with scanned images. Trying to do something like edit video on a home PC was near imposs…

There are some use cases that simply require a lot of memory because they do, but I'm talking in general. Software that doesn't have a good excuse, used to run in 64MB how it now runs in 64GB.

Besides, you just said you only needed 512MB, which is still nothing these days.

Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage

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Holy crap.

I bought right after this curve hit, like the day after. I went into Microcenter for a new PC w/64gb ddr5. The day before, their kits were ~$189. The day I bought they were $360. Now the same kit on Newegg is $530.

It's been 2 weeks.

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