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Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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Post by bux93 »

luke727 wrote: post #150
ChicagoDave wrote: post #127

Microsoft has gone full-blown evil corporation again. No customer validation on any of the AI cruft. No full OPT OUT. Office products are bastardized with copilot buttons everywhere. I've been a Windows user from day one and I now see a future without it. Satya had been a bright spot in Microsoft, but this blind lust for AI, especially in bed with Altman who is pure con artist, is unforgivable. Some of the investment…

> Office products are bastardized with copilot buttons everywhere. They put copilot in notepad. NOTEPAD.

They put a copilot button in Outlook. Which, when ask, gladly confesses it doesn't have access to your mail or calendar, completely negating any value it could possibly have.

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Post by iamtedd »

Springtime wrote: post #220
luke727 wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Office products are bastardized with copilot buttons everywhere. They put copilot in notepad. NOTEPAD.

And this W11 version of Notepad takes longer to open than Sublime Text and about equal to Firefox. On NVMe. It used to be instant , which is something you really notice the difference with when it changes.

The fucking start menu used to be an actual windows component that opened instantaneously. It's a web app now, sometimes taking seconds to open.

I also noticed a lot of the time windows just ignores me double clicking on things in file explorer, leaving me to sit there wondering if I have to do it again.

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Post by jstanley »

fsflover wrote: post #261
baq wrote: post #235

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> and it won't change by itself for months That’s… not a good sell at all Promise me a decade and I’ll bite. (Joke’s on me, I’ll need to get out of this windows shithole asap)

If you want years, just choose Debian.

In my experience the problem with Debian is that sooner or later you're bound to want to use something that is only 5 years old and therefore not included yet, so you end up having to install it from source or something else, but something doesn't quite work right so you have to hack it one way or another, and over time all this cruft adds up and you end up with a broken system caused precisely because the base distro refused to change fast enough.

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Post by jstanley »

ludicity wrote: post #314
int_19h wrote: post #288

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nope. Minesweeper, too. Well, the games are still free, the subscription is to remove the ads. But you have to subscribe for each game separately, and it's a per-device subscription. Yes, Microsoft really is that petty when it comes to nickel-and-diming users these days.

This is so fucking insane that I don't even know where to start. I'm hoping that even this is a joke.

https://www.pcworld.com/article/2820462/microsofts-solitaire...

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Post by cosmosgenius »

saltwatercowboy wrote: post #323
A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 wrote: post #321

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I suspect this may be one of those predictions that may not quite pan out. I am not saying it is a given, but never is about as unlikely.

...Why?

AGI might be possible with more Param+Data scaling for LLM. It is not completely within the realm of impossible given that there is no proof yet of "limits" of LLM. Current limitation is definitely on the hardware side.

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Post by duskdozer »

bionsystem wrote: post #326
ryandrake wrote: post #79

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> I will let it stay this way till i need it. I guarantee it will stay that way only until Microsoft decides you need it, and then they will just silently enable it and bury the option to disable it.

At this point, why isn't Amazon shipping us products that they think we should buy ? After all we can always send them back and get a refund if we don't want them.

A refund in Amazon gift cards of course, so it's instantly credited to your account instead of back on your card in 21 business days.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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Post by lil-lugger »

The only AI tools that will ever be truly useful are the ones you build yourself. Basically in this world useful = dangerous. Moving files around, changing file names, deleting files, reading emails responding to emails. The AI’s can do it but it’s dangerous, safeguards like human in the loop aren’t feasible at scale. Yet I’ve built agents or used Claude Code in folders to do this manually and it’s amazing - but every application with an AI button now you just KNOW it can’t do the thing you want it to do.

Re: Windows 11 adds AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders

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Post by philipwhiuk »

the_snooze wrote: post #39

>For example, if you ask ChatGPT’s Agent to book a travel, it’ll open Chromium on Linux in an Azure container, search the query, visit different websites, navigate each page and book a flight ticket using your saved credentials. An AI Agent tries to mimic a human, and it can perform tasks on your behalf while you sit back and relax. Big tech has repeatedly shown that they are not good stewards of end users' privacy a…

You'll end up with car insurance, a hotel reservation you don't want and pay extra for the middle seat

(Assuming it even gets the right airport/country).

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Post by deafpolygon »

pjmlp wrote: post #241
torginus wrote: post #204

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This is the funniest thing, considering it lacks 90% of the features included freeware text editors written in some student's spare time back in the 90s. It's basically a fancy textbox. Microsoft's own people can't use the toolkits they write, as evidenced by the React component in the start menu(!)

They can, the problem is that apparently they aren't able to hire people nowadays with Win32 development experience, so they get interns that have grown in US universities with macOS and Linux, which sundenly have a Win32 developer role. That is how you end up with web garbage in what was supposed to be native code, or .NET. I think this is also a reason why WinUI efforts went down the drain.

> this is also a reason why WinUI efforts went down the drain.

That may be, but there is PLENTY of people with the expertise to develop WinUI apps -- IMO, the glaring problem would be that Microsoft can't get their head straight on which UI to support in the first place!

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Post by natebc »

Springtime wrote: post #220
luke727 wrote: post #150

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> Office products are bastardized with copilot buttons everywhere. They put copilot in notepad. NOTEPAD.

And this W11 version of Notepad takes longer to open than Sublime Text and about equal to Firefox. On NVMe. It used to be instant , which is something you really notice the difference with when it changes.

Wait till you open the humble calculator.
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