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Re: Anthropic’s paper smells like bullshit

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I've seen attributions to state actors for so many times...let's not get into this. I think most companies try to play this card to save themselves from the embarrassment of being pwed by some script kiddies.

It’s the new fund raising for an increasingly militarized world

Re: Anthropic’s paper smells like bullshit

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> They hired a teenager to run one of their departments Except they didn’t. The person in question was 28 when they hired him. He was a teenager when he cofounded the company that was acquired for thirty billion dollars. But the taste of those really sour grapes must be hard to deal with.

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> Comic hyperbole darling. I know that's hard to understand, especially when you're one of the start up elect, who still believes.

Please omit patronizing swipes like this from comments on HN. You have no idea what the parent commenter "believes", but we know very well that sneering like this only makes HN worse. Please take a moment to remind yourself of the guidelines and make an effort to observe them in future. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Anthropic’s paper smells like bullshit

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> They hired a teenager to run one of their departments Except they didn’t. The person in question was 28 when they hired him. He was a teenager when he cofounded the company that was acquired for thirty billion dollars. But the taste of those really sour grapes must be hard to deal with.

> But the taste of those really sour grapes must be hard to deal with

Please don't sneer at fellow community members on HN, and don't reply to a bad comment with a worse one; it just makes HN seem like a more mean and miserable place. The comment would have been fine without that last sentence.

Re: Anthropic’s paper smells like bullshit

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When I worked at a FAANG with a "world leading" AI lab (now run by a teenage data labeller) as an SRE/sysadmin I was asked to use a modified version of a foundation model which was steered towards infosec stuff. We were asked to try and persuade it to help us hack into a mock printer/dodgy linux box. It helped a little, but it wasn't all that helpful. but in terms of coordination, I can't see how it would be useful.…

Yeah, I gave my AWS root API key to Cursor in agent mode. I learned that AWS charges ridiculous amounts for transferring and storing data.

Re: Anthropic’s paper smells like bullshit

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Because deciding how much culpability they have is not a solved problem.

Thanks for responding. Solving it will involve public discourse. The negative externality will not be forever ignored and frantic, knee-jerk, legislative or judicial solutions are rarely optimal. Everyone, including Anthropic, benefits from starting the culpability discussion now, ideally in a context just like this. Maybe that’s exactly what Anthropic is doing by framing this news as “we stopped some cybercrime” rat…

What kind of solution do you foresee here?

Re: Anthropic’s paper smells like bullshit

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post #343

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They hired a teenager to run one of their departments Except they didn’t. The person in question was 28 when they hired him. He was a teenager when he cofounded the company that was acquired for thirty billion dollars. But the taste of those really sour grapes must be hard to deal with.

> But the taste of those really sour grapes must be hard to deal with Please don't sneer at fellow community members on HN, and don't reply to a bad comment with a worse one; it just makes HN seem like a more mean and miserable place. The comment would have been fine without that last sentence.

Content is more important to me than tone.

Much of this subthread is nothing more than gossip about someone people are apparently jealous of. Talk about a "mean and miserable place." Techbros upset that they didn't cash out as big.

Re: Anthropic’s paper smells like bullshit

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Thanks for responding. Solving it will involve public discourse. The negative externality will not be forever ignored and frantic, knee-jerk, legislative or judicial solutions are rarely optimal. Everyone, including Anthropic, benefits from starting the culpability discussion now, ideally in a context just like this. Maybe that’s exactly what Anthropic is doing by framing this news as “we stopped some cybercrime” rat…

What kind of solution do you foresee here?

Well, if it were not for the fact that our two party system is controlled by donors and lobbyists I would hope for a legislative solution. If your product is used to defraud people, you have to reimburse the victims seems like a reasonable sort of law to enact. Such legislation would encourage companies to do more than give vague lip service to “guardrails.” I’ll admit that I’m not an anarchocapitalist who thinks we need to put all our resources, and the resources of future generations via overspending, into building ever more impactful AI, so maybe I don’t belong here. The ai worshippers have been making claims for several years now about ai curing cancer and solving all our problems: where’s the beef?

Re: Anthropic’s paper smells like bullshit

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Yeah, I love folks who worry about China having access to models and GPUs. I mean, friend, they have 1.3B people. They could put a crack AI team in every country in the world, tomorrow. But yes, instead, it's far cheaper to let each of those AI teams VPN to any country, all the time.

If they actually cared, they would just block VPNs. Valve does this when you try to create an account.

Commercial VPNs are relatively easy to block, because they use known IP ranges that companies can blacklist. But it's trivial to set up a private VPN with unique IPs such that VPN blocking becomes much less straightforward and much more resource intensive, for example by using traffic pattern analysis or behavioral fingerprinting.

Re: Anthropic’s paper smells like bullshit

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Google was.

OK so when you say "hacked into Gmail" you actually mean someone breached the infra of email. Not that they did some credential stuffing / password reset attack & got into one person's Gmail account?

Yes.
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