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Michael Burry a.k.a. "Big Short",discloses $1.1B bet against Nvidia&Palantir

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Re: Michael Burry a.k.a. "Big Short",discloses $1.1B bet against Nvidia&Palantir

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Post by UltraSane »

pphysch wrote: post #334
UltraSane wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Again, thanks for proving my point.

"You're insane for opposing genocide!!" is an unbelievably patronizing, if not outright insane take. You're literally losing huge swathes of the American Christian Right, as we speak. Those guys don't care about Hamas or Palestine or the occupied West Bank. You need to wake up! I'm trying to help you.

Did you assume I'm Israeli? I'm not. I'm an agnostic.

the people ranting about Israel committing genocide in Gaza all happily ignore Article 7 of the Hamas charter that quotes a hadith: "The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him." This is explicitly about killing Jews, not just opposing Zionism or dismantling a state. Combined with the charter's call to eliminate Israel and "liberate" all of Palestine through armed struggle, this effectively calls for the violent removal or elimination of Jews from the territory

Re: Michael Burry a.k.a. "Big Short",discloses $1.1B bet against Nvidia&Palantir

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Post by pphysch »

UltraSane wrote: post #341
pphysch wrote: post #334

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"You're insane for opposing genocide!!" is an unbelievably patronizing, if not outright insane take. You're literally losing huge swathes of the American Christian Right, as we speak. Those guys don't care about Hamas or Palestine or the occupied West Bank. You need to wake up! I'm trying to help you.

Did you assume I'm Israeli? I'm not. I'm an agnostic. the people ranting about Israel committing genocide in Gaza all happily ignore Article 7 of the Hamas charter that quotes a hadith: "The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him…

You don't have to be Israeli or Jewish to be a (widely-despised) Zionist or regurgitate their murderous propaganda.

Re: Michael Burry a.k.a. "Big Short",discloses $1.1B bet against Nvidia&Palantir

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Post by UltraSane »

pphysch wrote: post #342
UltraSane wrote: post #341

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you assume I'm Israeli? I'm not. I'm an agnostic. the people ranting about Israel committing genocide in Gaza all happily ignore Article 7 of the Hamas charter that quotes a hadith: "The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him…

You don't have to be Israeli or Jewish to be a (widely-despised) Zionist or regurgitate their murderous propaganda.

" or regurgitate their murderous propaganda."

You say this while utterly ignoring the fact that the Hamas Charter's goal is to kill all Jews? Thanks for proving my point.

I honestly have no idea what the word Zionist means anymore since Israel has existed for 77 years and seems likely to continue to exist for at least another 77 years. Can you explain to me what it means?

Re: Michael Burry a.k.a. "Big Short",discloses $1.1B bet against Nvidia&Palantir

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Post by pphysch »

UltraSane wrote: post #343
pphysch wrote: post #342

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't have to be Israeli or Jewish to be a (widely-despised) Zionist or regurgitate their murderous propaganda.

" or regurgitate their murderous propaganda." You say this while utterly ignoring the fact that the Hamas Charter's goal is to kill all Jews? Thanks for proving my point. I honestly have no idea what the word Zionist means anymore since Israel has existed for 77 years and seems likely to continue to exist for at least another 77 years. Can you explain to me what it means?

> the Hamas Charter's goal is to kill all Jews

This is blood libel, murderous propaganda. There is nothing of this sort in the current Hamas charter.

Re: Michael Burry a.k.a. "Big Short",discloses $1.1B bet against Nvidia&Palantir

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Post by [deleted] »

blitzar wrote: post #29
strictnein wrote: post #15

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Not usually a good idea if you're not a skilled investor, but here's a place to start: https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/06/sellingoptions.a...

Selling (writing) options is NOT how you bet against a company. You either sell the stock short or buy puts.

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Re: Michael Burry a.k.a. "Big Short",discloses $1.1B bet against Nvidia&Palantir

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Post by dlubarov »

pphysch wrote: post #344
UltraSane wrote: post #343

Earlier quoted context omitted.

" or regurgitate their murderous propaganda." You say this while utterly ignoring the fact that the Hamas Charter's goal is to kill all Jews? Thanks for proving my point. I honestly have no idea what the word Zionist means anymore since Israel has existed for 77 years and seems likely to continue to exist for at least another 77 years. Can you explain to me what it means?

> the Hamas Charter's goal is to kill all Jews This is blood libel, murderous propaganda. There is nothing of this sort in the current Hamas charter.

Hamas only has one charter. Some Westerners like to think of the separate 2017 document as an "updated charter", but Hamas themselves never used such language, and in fact explicitly stated that the 2017 document did not replace the charter.

Re: Michael Burry a.k.a. "Big Short",discloses $1.1B bet against Nvidia&Palantir

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Post by UltraSane »

pphysch wrote: post #344
UltraSane wrote: post #343

Earlier quoted context omitted.

" or regurgitate their murderous propaganda." You say this while utterly ignoring the fact that the Hamas Charter's goal is to kill all Jews? Thanks for proving my point. I honestly have no idea what the word Zionist means anymore since Israel has existed for 77 years and seems likely to continue to exist for at least another 77 years. Can you explain to me what it means?

> the Hamas Charter's goal is to kill all Jews This is blood libel, murderous propaganda. There is nothing of this sort in the current Hamas charter.

What is it about Israel/Jews that make people say things this stupid and obviously false? Hamas's mass murder of innocent civilians on Oct 7 2023 shows what their real goals are.

Hamas charter that quotes a hadith: "The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him." This is explicitly about killing Jews, not just opposing Zionism or dismantling a state. Combined with the charter's call to eliminate Israel and "liberate" all of Palestine through armed struggle, this effectively calls for the violent removal or elimination of Jews from the territory

And Gaza has been ethnically cleansed of nearly every non-muslim.

Re: Michael Burry a.k.a. "Big Short",discloses $1.1B bet against Nvidia&Palantir

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Post by UltraSane »

willis936 wrote: post #237
UltraSane wrote: post #236

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I honestly don't understand how this relates to people actively supporting Hamas attacking Israel and killing civilians.

It relates to people ignoring Hamas. We have nothing to do with Hamas. People support the human rights of Palestinians because they support the human rights of all humans. I didn't address supporting Hamas because it wouldn't have been a generous interpretation of your argument. Where have you seen Hamas support? I have only seen it when Palestinian support is equated to Hamas support to justify atrocities.

Where have you seen Hamas support? See the posts by pphysch later in this thread.

Re: Michael Burry a.k.a. "Big Short",discloses $1.1B bet against Nvidia&Palantir

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Post by ethbr1 »

worik wrote: post #340
ethbr1 wrote: post #220

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Yes and no. Compounding market effects can. First order effects? There's a lot of firepower to blunt those. Especially when the person in the White House is scared about losing the midterms.

"First order effects" I do not know what that means, I can sort of guess. By now is not the AI market beyond any sensible definition of "first order"?

I meant that the Fed, Treasury, etc. have powerful levels they can pull to head off initial effects.

What can overwhelm them is if those effects cascade and compound into second-order effects, typically multiplied in magnitude.

That's essentially what the fuck-up in 2008 was. The government let Bear Stearns fail because it could handle the effects. What it couldn't handle (or at least, was barely able to) were the second order effects of credit tightening, mortgage derivative repricing, counterparty trust loss, etc. etc.

The government could absolutely prop up the AI bubble, possibly indefinitely. What it can't do is cover second order fallout, if it turns out a lot of risky money was somehow tied into the bubble.

Re: Michael Burry a.k.a. "Big Short",discloses $1.1B bet against Nvidia&Palantir

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Post by pphysch »

UltraSane wrote: post #347
pphysch wrote: post #344

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the Hamas Charter's goal is to kill all Jews This is blood libel, murderous propaganda. There is nothing of this sort in the current Hamas charter.

What is it about Israel/Jews that make people say things this stupid and obviously false? Hamas's mass murder of innocent civilians on Oct 7 2023 shows what their real goals are. Hamas charter that quotes a hadith: "The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew…

I'm a huge proponent of factually investigating what happened on Oct 7, 2023--who killed who--but sadly the Israeli regime is not. They would rather paper it over and leverage it as atrocity propaganda to commit a genocide, then investigate and bring criminals to justice.

A wild contrast between barbarism and civilization.

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