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Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by dutchCourage »

gertop wrote: post #231
toyg wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The discussion over X is always the same: "It's gone to hell" "No, it just reflects your tastes" "That's objectively false: create a new account and see what happens." "..."

The same can be said of bluesky. In fact I think that you've said it yourself and recommended that people stick to manually curated follows!

I think it's good advice, the main difference is that Bsky encourages you to do that by giving you the possibility to customize your feeds (and set whatever as the default). You can have a combination of personal lists and custom algorithmic feeds (your own or someone else's).

Even ignoring musk's takeover, I think it's a better model that reduces doomscrolling, ragebait and generally low quality interactions.

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by Larrikin »

nxor wrote: post #291
Larrikin wrote: post #272

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How were you personally negatively impacted?

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Do you assume everyone on the Internet is the same race as you unless you have a negative opinion of them?

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by rhcom2 »

vachina wrote: post #230
itsoktocry wrote: post #205

I've been a long-time Twitter user. I don't hate Elon, so when he bought it I was cautiously optimistic. I deactivated last week. The platform is bad and getting worse. It's scammy and spammy. Everything is designed around garbage engagement, so that the X team can brag about how good the product is doing.

I prefer the X now. Unlimited stream of unhinged, unfiltered thought stream from strangers straight into my feed.

A small percentage might even be actual humans!

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by stillatit »

aldousd666 wrote: post #161

Nobody wants a damn web view. If I'm clicking off to a link, I may want to click to another app and back in and still be where it was... If it's in a webview that's gone as soon as I click out. Yes, you can open in Chrome or whatever, open in a browser, but that's a pain in the ass to do an the time. I hate web views, in all forms.

>Nobody wants a damn web view.

OP here. This might be a classic Hacker News sentiment that's not shared by normal users. Being able to instantly return to where you were without having to navigate apps is probably appreciated by a lot of people. (As would be preloading in this instance).

FWIW when I first started browsing HN a common complaint was websites being mobile sized. The sentiment here was they should be rendered in full desktop and require pinch-zooming and scrolling in all directions.

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by slg »

nxor wrote: post #291
Larrikin wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How were you personally negatively impacted?

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It’s wild to complain about liberals’ hypocrisy of suppressing speech while defending Elon of all people, the most prominent “free speech absolutist” hypocrite there is.

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

1234letshaveatw wrote: post #322
SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #310

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Anyone who's invested enough to attention to the budget fight knows that it's not a hypothetical. Trump has killed a number of programs and departments that were funded by previous CRs, and has explicitly promised to continue doing so. I know you know this isn't true, but I don't understand what you think it accomplishes to lie, other than to further radicalize people against Trumpism.

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Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by hnlmorg »

hnlmorg wrote: post #39
Zolomon wrote: post #32

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This is not true, this change is a recent phenomenon, I believe it came into effect sometime around 2021-2023 (maybe earlier even). I believe it changed when OpenAI showed the value of data. Before, there was no problem using Instagram or Twitter while not logged in. Now there is a dark pattern that forces you to create an account, or log in.

People already knew the value of data long before LLMs were popularised and web scraping has been a thing since the very beginnings of the web. Why you’re describing isn’t a recent phenomenon. Not even remotely. Facebook has never allowed people read only views to their platform. And Expert Stack Overflow like Quora used the same dark patterns you described too.

Getting down voted for stating a fact. Just goes to show how short some people’s memories are.

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by labrador »

jandrese wrote: post #331
labrador wrote: post #235

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I just tried to find AI starter packs on BlueSky and confirmed that BlueSky is openly hostile to AI. I understand the reasons, it's just not where I'm at. I'll try Threads and see what happens.

Bluesky has lots of artists, authors, journalists, etc... who see AI as a direct threat to human creativity. Not that the AI will replace the creativity, but that it can generate slop that looks "good enough" and doesn't demand a living wage or healthcare benefits. Many of these creative types have little trust that corporate management won't try to replace them just to save a buck.

I'm sympathetic to their arguments but that doesn't lesson my need to understand AI if I'm going to help them with their concerns. Ignoring it is not an effective strategy.

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by Uhhrrr »

robinhood wrote: post #66

I find it so sad that Twitter still gets traffic at all. Even if we put aside the super shady content on this platform (free speech, lol), the app, either on the web or mobile, has a sub-par user experience. I wish all the devs that I respect were using another platform.

I have a great user experience on it.

Here's what I do:

I follow people who are consistently interesting and don't post too much.

Then I only use "Following". "For You" is an algorithmic attention vortex for the proles.

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by nozzlegear »

stillatit wrote: post #344
aldousd666 wrote: post #161

Nobody wants a damn web view. If I'm clicking off to a link, I may want to click to another app and back in and still be where it was... If it's in a webview that's gone as soon as I click out. Yes, you can open in Chrome or whatever, open in a browser, but that's a pain in the ass to do an the time. I hate web views, in all forms.

>Nobody wants a damn web view. OP here. This might be a classic Hacker News sentiment that's not shared by normal users. Being able to instantly return to where you were without having to navigate apps is probably appreciated by a lot of people. (As would be preloading in this instance). FWIW when I first started browsing HN a common complaint was websites being mobile sized. The sentiment here was they should be ren…

> This might be a classic Hacker News sentiment that's not shared by normal users.

My wife just didn't know what a web view was (she still doesn't), but she prefers using the browser after I showed her how to "escape" Facebook's web view and open pages in Safari where the content blocker and ad blocker extensions could do their work. You probably have a point about preloading pages, but until content and ad blockers start working in all web views, then I agree with the person you're replying to: nobody wants a damn web view.

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