Migrating from AWS to Hetzner

Post by dorkypunk » Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 2:26 PM UTC

realitysballs wrote: post #222

adamcharnock wrote: post #150

I cannot overstate the performance improvement of deploying onto bare metal. We typically see a doubling of performance, as well as extremely predictable baseline performance. This is down to several things: - Latency - having your own local network, rather than sharing some larger datacenter network fabric, gives around of order of magnitude reduced latency - Caches – right-sizing a deployment for the underlying har…

Ya but then you need to pay for a team to maintain network and continually secure and monitor the server and update/patch. The salaries of those professionals , really only make sense for a certain sized organization. I still think small-midsized orgs may be better off in cloud for security / operations cost optimization.

Post by grim_io » Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 2:27 PM UTC

mjr00 wrote: post #304

kitd wrote: post #253

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People are usually the biggest cost in any organisation. If you can run all your systems without the sysadmins & netadmins required to keep it all upright (especially at expensive times like weekends or run up to Black Friday/Xmas), you can save yourself a lot more than the extra it'll cost to get a cloud provider to do it all for you.

Yeah I always just kinda laugh at these comparisons, because it's usually coming from tech people who don't appreciate how much more valuable people's time is than raw opex. It's like saying, you know it's really dumb that we spend $4000 on Macbooks for everyone, we could just make everyone use Linux desktops and save a ton of money.

Post by wiether » Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 2:27 PM UTC

adamcharnock wrote: post #309

wiether wrote: post #296

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They conveniently provide no detail about the usecase, so it's hard to tell But, yeah, there's certainly a solution to provide better performances for cheaper, using other settings/services on AWS

We're hoping to write a case study down the road that will give more detail. But the short version is that not all parts of the client's organisation have aligned skills/incentives. So sometimes code is deployed that makes, shall we say, 'atypical use' of the resources available. In those cases, it is great to a) not get a shocking bill, and b) be able to somewhat support this atypical use until it can be remedied.

Post by f1shy » Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 2:28 PM UTC

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What is old is new again. My employer is so conservative and slow that they are forerunning this Local Cloud Edge Our Basement thing by just not doing anything.

> What is old is new again. Over the years I tried occasionally to look into cloud, but it never made sense. A lot of complexity and significantly higher cost, for very low performance and a promise of "scalability". You virtually never need scalability so fast that you don't have time to add another server - and at baremetal costs, you're usually about a year ahead of the curve anyways.

Post by whstl » Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 2:30 PM UTC

dlisboa wrote: post #297

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> If you don't want to do this yourself, then we'll do it for you for half the price of AWS (and we'll be your DevOps team too You might not realize but you are actually increasing the business case for AWS :-) Also those hardware savings will be eaten away by two days of your hourly bill. I like to look at my project costs across all verticals...

> Also those hardware savings will be eaten away by two days of your hourly bill Doubt it. I've personally seen AWS bills in the tens of thousands, he's probably not that costly for a day.