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Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by stevenwalton »

0xfaded wrote: post #52

To any Linux users, I recently bought a fully loaded M4 MacBook pro to replace my aging Lenovo and strongly regret it. I thought I would use it for playing with LLMs, but local dev on a Mac is not fun and I still don't have it fully set up. I'll probably replace it with a framework at some point in the near future. Edit: okay, that garnered more attention than I expected, I guess I owe a qualification. 1. Everything…

  > To any Linux users,
I have a Macbook Air and I pretty much use it as an ssh machine. It is definitely over priced for that, but it at least beats the annoyance of having to deal with Windows and all the Word docs I get sent or Teams meetings... (Seriously, how does Microsoft still exist?)

Since I mostly live in the terminal (ghostty) or am using the web browser I usually don't have to deal with stupid Apple decisions. Though I've found it quite painful to try to do some even basic things when I want to use my Macbook like I'd use a linux machine. Especially since the functionality can change dramatically after an update... I just don't get why they (and other companies) try to hinder power users so much. I understand we're small in numbers, but usually things don't follow flat distributions.

  > I had to split all my dot files into common/Linux/Mac specific sections
There's often better ways around this. On my machine my OSX config isn't really about specifically OSX but what programs I might be running there[0]. Same goes for linux[1], which you'll see is pretty much just about CUDA and aliasing apt to nala if I'm on a Debian/Ubuntu machine (sometimes I don't get a choice).

I think what ends up being more complicated is when a program has a different name under a distro or version[2]. Though that can be sorted out by a little scripting. This definitely isn't the most efficient way to do things but I write like this so that things are easier to organize, turn on/off, or for me to try new things.

What I find more of a pain in the ass is how commands like `find`[3] and `grep` differ. But usually there are ways you can find to get them to work identically across platforms.

  > Don't expect to be able to clone and build any random C++ project unless someone in the project is specifically targeting Mac.
But yeah, I don't have a solution to this... :(

[0] https://github.com/stevenwalton/.dotfiles/blob/master/rc_fil...

[1] https://github.com/stevenwalton/.dotfiles/blob/master/rc_fil...

[2] https://github.com/stevenwalton/.dotfiles/blob/master/rc_fil...

[3] https://github.com/stevenwalton/.dotfiles/tree/master/rc_fil...

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by ahmeneeroe-v2 »

KaiserPro wrote: post #325
cryptoegorophy wrote: post #307

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a 2020 Macbook, intel... 2.3 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 is it worth upgrading?

Very much so. No fan noise, no warmth, unless you are really really pushing it. in terms of speed, it makes it feel like the original retina did when they first came out. oh and a pretty fast disk as well.

>makes it feel like the original retina

Exactly right. M1 MacBook Pro delighted me in a way that Macs haven't done since my 2013 Retina MBP

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by dapperdrake »

metabagel wrote: post #312
WXLCKNO wrote: post #120

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You know you can use CMD+backtick (CMD+`) to cycle between windows of the same app? Add shift to go in reverse. Or otherwise you can enable the app exposé feature to swipe down with three fingers and it will show you only windows of the same app.

This usually doesn't work for me. For example, if I open a new Firefox window, the Mac seems to force the two Firefox windows onto different desktops. This already is a struggle, because sometimes I don't want the windows to be on two desktops. I find that if I try to move one window to the same desktop as the other, then Mac will move the other desktop to the original desktop so they are both still on different desk…

Full-screen windows (little green button at the top) seem to get "their own desktop". Has tripped me up a few times.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by ruszki »

konart wrote: post #75
0xfaded wrote: post #52

To any Linux users, I recently bought a fully loaded M4 MacBook pro to replace my aging Lenovo and strongly regret it. I thought I would use it for playing with LLMs, but local dev on a Mac is not fun and I still don't have it fully set up. I'll probably replace it with a framework at some point in the near future. Edit: okay, that garnered more attention than I expected, I guess I owe a qualification. 1. Everything…

>but local dev on a Mac is not fun What are the differences though? I have mbpr and a pc with Fedora on it and I barely see any differences aside from sandboxing in my atomic Kinoite setup and different package manager. People often hating on brew but as a backend dev I haven't encountered any issues for years.

I can tell you in one sentence: try to have a DNS server when mDNSResponder sits on port 53 (for example because you use the new virtualization framework).

And there are a lot of such things, which are trivial or non problem in Linux.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by mike-cardwell »

0xfaded wrote: post #52

To any Linux users, I recently bought a fully loaded M4 MacBook pro to replace my aging Lenovo and strongly regret it. I thought I would use it for playing with LLMs, but local dev on a Mac is not fun and I still don't have it fully set up. I'll probably replace it with a framework at some point in the near future. Edit: okay, that garnered more attention than I expected, I guess I owe a qualification. 1. Everything…

I've been forced to use Macbooks for development at work for the past 7 years. I still strongly prefer my personal Thinkpad running Debian for development in my personal life. So don't just put it down to lack of familiarity.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by leakycap »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #323
leakycap wrote: post #304

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Verizon owns most of the value brands in the US and you made no connection between them and Comcast beyond mentioning them in the same sentence. AT&T is "about as bad" as what? You gave no information.

Price, customer service

Based on the type of responses you are giving, I actually do believe you probably call your phone company's customer service regularly. So perhaps your criteria might be different. Have you heard of Consumer Cellular?

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by drcode »

Forgeties79 wrote: post #327
Noaidi wrote: post #301

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Yeah, I am using a 2020 Macbook Air M1 with macOS 15.7.1 (which I am about to install Ashasi Linux) and I have no issues as a casual user. For most people who use macbooks I see no reason to but an M5 or M4 over an M1.

How’s that running on M machines these days?

asahi runs great on m1, m2- but not on the newer chips.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by [deleted] »

leakycap wrote: post #155
coldtea wrote: post #82

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> Don't forget the environmental impact of a smaller box Compared to the marginal environmental impact to source materials, build hardware and parts, assemble, ship, stock, and transport to customer each unit, the box could be 10x larger and it wouldn't make a dent.

> ship ... the box could be 10x larger and it wouldn't make a dent This is not how shipping works. A larger box, even by 1 inch on any direction, absolutely makes a huge difference when shipping in manufacturing quantities. Let's not pretend physical volume doesn't exist just to make an argument. 10 planes flying with MacBooks == much different than 1 plane (in other words, when you 10x the size of something, as you…

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Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by ahmeneeroe-v2 »

forgotoldacc wrote: post #136
pigeonhole123 wrote: post #98

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It's much cheaper in the US

I have a strong feeling Apple is raising prices elsewhere in order to avoid pissing off the notoriously sensitive consumers in America. Sony is doing similar things with making the PlayStation expensive everywhere to make it affordable for Americans. The world is essentially subsidizing the tariffs for Americans. People in other countries will get pissed but ultimately suck it up and buy a product. People in America…

>The world is essentially subsidizing the tariffs for Americans.

I was told the opposite thing would happen. Sounds like a great deal for us Americans!

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by kondro »

apparent wrote: post #237
kondro wrote: post #197

Just give me cellular in a MacBook Air already Apple if you want me to insta-buy! Bonus points for OLED. Air’s don’t have to be just cheap. I want a thin and light premium laptop for walking around and a second Mac (of any type) for my desk.

Why carry around two cellular modems? Are you ever out and about with your computer but not your phone? I've been happy to hotspot my computers and tablets to my phone, which I always have with me. The only possible issue I can think of is battery life, but if I'm carrying around my laptop I can throw a charge cable in the bag to keep my phone juiced.

I want my computer to have an always on cell modem just like my phone does.

The Apple Silicon chips all run in a version of always on these days because the efficiency cores are so, well, efficient.

Additionally, while you may want to burn the battery in multiple devices and deal with having to manage that, I don’t want to.

Apple has been selling cellular iPads since the beginning and I love never having to worry about pairing mine.

Tethering to an iPhone or iPad Is much better than it used to be, but it’s still not perfect.

Apple makes their own modems these days and even with Qualcomm had a capped per device license fee more than covered by the premium they charge for cellular in, say, the iPad.

I know so many people who want this convenience and are willing to pay for it that it just seems like stubbornness at this point that they’re willing to put modems in iPads and not MacBooks.

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