Jeff Bezos says AI is in a bubble but society will get 'gigantic' benefits

Post by iLoveOncall » Sat, Oct 04, 2025, 8:41 AM UTC

rhetocj23 wrote: post #50

coffeecoders wrote: post #11

Every bubble looks obvious in hindsight. The dot-com crash left behind Amazon and Google. The crypto crash left behind Coinbase and a few real revenue generating companies. If this is the AI bubble, then the survivors are going to look very obvious in a decade, we just don’t know which ones yet.

But google and amazon were obvious to those in the know, in terms of what they delivered. S Jobs called it back in 1995-97 - he referred to it as shopping for information and shopping for good and services. Nobody has this crystal clear, tangible vision re. LLMs. Nobody at all. That is a big problem. I found the interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqSfFcaluHc&t=1700s

Post by SJC_Hacker » Sat, Oct 04, 2025, 8:46 AM UTC

scotty79 wrote: post #314

AngryData wrote: post #220

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Or use any of the wonders of military technology invented in the last 200 years to take back society. These fuckers have lived in prosperity for so long that they don't even think it is possible. But so many people throughout history thought they were untouchable until the masses decided they had enough of their shit. Kings with professional armies, full plate knights, men with cannons, mens with guns, machine guns,…

When unrest happens the military sides with the ones that give better hopes of keeping the stream of money that funds the army flowing. It sides with the poor only if the powerful (gov) are hopelessly inept at gathering money. If there's a chance that current civilian power can reform and keep collecting the money from the people and funding the army then the army sides with them and help quell the rebellion. Those w…

Post by watwut » Sat, Oct 04, 2025, 8:48 AM UTC

robotresearcher wrote: post #76

baobun wrote: post #71

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The writing is a mandatory part of the learning process. Outsourcing it to tools is skipping and cheating. Nothing new here. It was the same when the tool was your buddy or upwork before LLMs. Banning advanced graph calculators on undergrad math exams is not because "they don't want to use new tools", either.

The sad difference that makes a difference is that banning graphing calculators from proctored exams is enforceable in practice. Appealing to honor is a partial solution at best. Cheating is a problem at West Point, let alone the majority of places with a less disciplined culture. It's sad, but true. The fact that you and I would never cheat on exams simply does not generalize. https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-arm…

Post by jfyi » Sat, Oct 04, 2025, 8:51 AM UTC

irjustin wrote: post #176

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How so?

Thought experiment - Startrek replicators are real. This basically means almost everything can be built without human involvement. The guy who owns the replicators is the richest. The wealth gap is so massive you get revolts (because we're educated, not serfs, right?) So then government needs to step in. Either tax->ubi?, socialize it, or make it a state asset? Regardless, that's the goal of AGI/robotics/etc.

Post by Lio » Sat, Oct 04, 2025, 8:56 AM UTC

flanked-evergl wrote: post #307

javierluraschi wrote: post #142

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It will benefit all people but it will disproportionally benefit more rich people.

It will not benefit the rich as disproportionately as the covid pandemic did.