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Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Yeah, we should just ironically lean into it even harder and call it “backdooring”. Jokes aside, when has pandering to people to change the status quo of colloquial word use ever worked?

Well, obviously changing "installing software" to "sideloading" worked somehow.

It could be called "liberty-loading". You are at liberty to load/install software from anywhere

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Only works if everyone stops helping Google to turn the Web into ChromeOS Platform.

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Someone has to remember younger folks about IE 6 outcome, while others pretend only Chrome exists and ship Electron crap as well.

Firefox barely surviving at 3%, Safari as the last one standing, remains to be seen if Servo or Ladybird ever become relevant.

Yes, shitty point for anyone that only cares about Google's agenda to take over the Web.

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Someone has to remember younger folks about IE 6 outcome, while others pretend only Chrome exists and ship Electron crap as well. Firefox barely surviving at 3%, Safari as the last one standing, remains to be seen if Servo or Ladybird ever become relevant. Yes, shitty point for anyone that only cares about Google's agenda to take over the Web.

If there’s a coherent point in here I genuinely can’t find it.

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Do you have a 401k that somehow doesn’t hold Apple stock? Or are you complicit too?

I don't contribute to my 401k or I liquidate whatever is in it as soon as feasible within the tax model. I think I have some index funds but I am going to try to put them into the DOW or gold or something.

I have some bad news for you about the Dow: the top 4 companies by market cap in the Dow are Nvidia, Microsoft, Apple, and Amazon.

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Add Apple to the list of collaborators who need to be punished once the regime is overthrown.

Overthrown by whom? Aliens? Power supports power, there is no way out of this black hole.

The neat thing about the US is that governments are overthrown regularly by automatic operation of law: 12pm on the 20th of January 2028, in the case of the 47th president. I'm sure you know this but I feel everyone needs to remind themselves of this immutable fact regularly until then.

Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Here's a simple thought experiment. Would have Apple done the same if it was any another country? Probably not. They would have courts and the democratic processes to help them resist. But in face of authoritarian government who can hurt Apple's sales the company always bows. Be it actions in China or now action in US. The motive is simply profit. The company cannot have a centralized control to make it "safer" and t…

I'm skeptical of this angle. If the app in question is being used by some to commit targeted violence, is it really a question of profit and not safety? Does it really take much pressure to want to get out of that position? Does Apple publish apps designed for reporting locations of immigrants or minority groups? Is that a line of business they want to be in at all?

Please show where these apps have been used to commit targeted violence.

Your second paragraph reads to me like you’re equating the desire to protest and document the atrocities being committed by government agents to physical threats and violence being committed by unhinged private citizens against minority groups. This is a disingenuous argument.

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The rule it breaks is Trump doesn’t like it. So Tim Cook bends the knee as the spineless little man he is.

Okay, but that's not what's being asked now is it? What's being asked is the explanation . They aren't telling saying to the public "we love the taste of boots" even if it is true.

No one would ever say this explicitly, but Tim Cook has very clearly shown it by his own personal actions and those of his company.

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Did we forget about WEI already? I'm sure Google is waiting for the right time to try it again. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Environment_Integrity

How would WEI prevent you from running a web-site with functionality similar to the removed apps?

Somewhat roundabout, but WEI can make it so you need to have an allowed device-OS-browser combo for important services like banking. The device can then make it impossible to install another OS, and the OS can make it impossible to install another browser. Then the browser (or the OS) just receives blacklists (and possibly eventually whitelists after everything is entirely corporate captured) from Google/Microsoft/Apple.
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