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Post by bonoboTP »

pants2 wrote: post #118
jablongo wrote: post #39

Sam Altman has made (for me) encouraging statements in the past about short-form video like TikTok being the best current example of misaligned AI. While this release references policies to combat "Doomscrolling and RL-sloptimization", it's curious that OpenAI would devote resources to building a social app based on AI generated short form video, which seems to be a core problem in our world. IMO you can't tweak the…

I'm optimistic about the Sora app! My hope is that it becomes much more whimsical and fun than TikTok because everyone on the app knows that all content is fake. Hopefully that means less rage-bait and more creative content, like OG YouTube. Nobody's going to get their news from Sora because it's literally 100% fake.

> much more whimsical and fun than TikTok

In the early years everyone told me that TikTok is actually fun and whimsical (like just after it stopped being musical.ly), and it's all about fun collaboration, and amateur comedy sketches, fun dances and lipsyncs, and people posting fun reactions to each other etc, all lighthearted and that social media is finally fun again!

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Post by cubefox »

aaroninsf wrote: post #25

Someone who doesn't follow the moving edge would be forgiven for being confused by the dismissive criticism dominating this thread so far. It's not that I disagree with the criticism; it's rather that when you live on the moving edge it's easy to lose track of the fact that things like this are miraculous and I know not a single person who thought we would get results "even" like this, this quickly. This is a forum f…

Yeah. Just a few years ago, people here would have said stuff like that was decades away at best and pure science fiction at worst.

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Post by dvngnt_ »

layman51 wrote: post #285
artursapek wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is also my thesis. The internet is going to be saturated with AI slop indiscernible from real content. Once it reaches a tipping point, there will no longer be much of a reason to consume the content at all. I think social networks that can authenticate video/photo/text content as human-created will be a major trend in a few years.

I have no clue if the reactions are real, but there are some videos online of people showing their grandparents gameplay from Grand Theft Auto games trying to convince them that it is real footage. The point of the videos is to laugh at their reactions where they question if it really happened, etc. Maybe this will result in something similar, but it can affect more people who aren’t as wary.

Right now with kids, the current trend is to prank their parents using Gemini into thinking they let a homeless guy in their house

https://www.tiktok.com/discover/ai-homeless-people-in-my-hou...

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Post by jp57 »

Prediction: we'll see at least one Sora-generated commercial at the Super Bowl this year.

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Post by colesantiago »

qoez wrote: post #27

I know the comments here are gonna be negative but I just find this so sick and awesome. Feels like it's finally close to the potential we knew was possible a few years ago. Feels like a pixar moment when CG tech showed a new realm of what was possible with toy story

> Feels like a pixar moment when CG tech showed a new realm of what was possible with toy story

@qoez

> The first entirely AI generated film (with Sora or other AI video tools) to win an Oscar will be less than 5 years away.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42368951

This prediction of mine was only 10 months ago.

Imagine when we and if we get to 5 years.

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Post by CaptainOfCoit »

echelon wrote: post #177
dragonwriter wrote: post #171

“With Sora 2, we are jumping straight to what we think may be the GPT‑3.5 moment for video.” I think feeling like you need to use that in marketing copy is a pretty good clue in itself both that its not, and that you don’t believe it is so much as desperately wish it would be.

The Sora app squaring off against Meta's social video app is the real story here. Sora 2 itself looks and sounds a little poorer than Google Veo 3. (Which is itself not currently ranked as the top video model. The Chinese models are dominating.) I think Google, with their massive YouTube data set, is ultimately going to win this game. They have all the data and infrastructure in the world to build best-in-class video…

> I think Google, with their massive YouTube data set, is ultimately going to win this game.

I don't know, applying the same thinking to LLMs, Google should have been first and best with just text based LLMs too, considering the datasets they sit on (and researchers, among others the people who came up with attention). But OpenAI somehow beat them on that regardless.

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Post by shoobiedoo »

loudmax wrote: post #149
qoez wrote: post #27

I know the comments here are gonna be negative but I just find this so sick and awesome. Feels like it's finally close to the potential we knew was possible a few years ago. Feels like a pixar moment when CG tech showed a new realm of what was possible with toy story

These videos are a very impressive engineering feat. There are a lot of uses for this capability that will be beneficial to society, and in the coming years people will come up with more good uses nobody today has thought of yet. But clearly we also see some major downsides. We already have an epidemic of social media rotting people's minds, and everything about this capability is set to supercharge these trends. Ope…

> There are a lot of uses for this capability that will be beneficial to society

Please enlighten me. What are they? If my elderly grandma is on her deathbed and I have no way to get to see her before she passes, will she get more warmth and fond memories of me with a clip of my figure riding an AI generated dragon saying goodbye, or a handwritten letter?

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Post by OfflineSergio »

While the quality of what I'm seeing is very nice for AI generated content (I still can't believe it) but the fact thay they are mostly showing short clips and not a long connected consistent video makes it less impressive.

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Post by jrflowers »

wilg wrote: post #284
oulipo2 wrote: post #261

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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True, but our old technology like radios has been doing that for a long time too.

This is a good point. It is hard not to see this tiktok video of an unblinking man smiling at a soft focus sasquatch and think of Marconi’s first broadcast across the Atlantic. I challenge any man to look at this unsettling video of a dog astronaut and not compare it in his mind to the first integrated circuit, or alternating current.
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