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Re: Nostr

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Pretty sure that the main reason Flattr (whether 1.0 or 2.0) failed, was because it wasn't backed by the Silicon Valley ?

I think more due to subscription nature. You had to pay 10€ every month. With zaps I can send someone 1c or 1€ whenever I want.

But that's worse in terms of keeping your expenses in check...

Re: Nostr

#342

> "An open protocol with a chance of working" One of the most depressing things about the decentralised protocol space is the adversarial attitude to other projects - whether that's Nostr v. ActivityPub v. ATproto v Nostr, XMPP v. Matrix v. IRCv3 v. Deltachat, etc. Imagine if the energy spent on positioning yourself relative to other open-source projects (who should be fellow travellers, if anything) was instead inve…

Doesn't help that all of the major decentralized protocols have been very effectively undermined and pushed aside. GTalk first de-federated (weakening XMPP as a whole), then killed XMPP support completely. Reader effectively killed RSS for casual users. Email has been swallowed whole by the oligopoly of GMail+Yahoo+Outlook+iCloud+etc; spam is a real problem, so if you're self-hosting your email, you kinda expect to b…

>by the oligopoly of GMail+Yahoo+Outlook+iCloud+etc;

So just a decentralized system with lots of players then?

Re: Nostr

#343

I don't understand. Can someone explain it to me from a technical/IT perspective? Is it like HTTP or JSON, or like XMPP...? "An open protocol with a chance of working" = ?huh? "Nostr doesn't subscribe to political ideals of "free speech"" = ???huh? "BEEP BOOP" ???wtf?? Please don't explain technical things as if you were talking to children. Explain them as if you were talking to a colleague sitting next to you. Talk…

It is basically email on steroids. You write an email (note/message) but instead of sending it to one server, you can send it to multiple servers of your choice. Each message is digitally signed with your keys and a time stamp, so you can verify that the identity is truly yours no matter where the message came from. In my opinion is the most innovative way of communicating that I've seen in the last 20 years. There i…

> In my opinion is the most innovative way of communicating that I've seen in the last 20 years.

The sad irony of this is that this is really not all that innovative, it's just reinventing the 45 year old Usenet with public-crypto. The server-independence was present in Usenet right from the start, that's why Dejanews/GoogleGroups could exist, and why Usenet wasn't provided by a specific server, but by your ISP. The modern Internet has completely regressed in that regard, getting rid of protocol specific clients, and moving everything to the browser and HTTP that don't allow that kind of distribution, that's why Nostr feels fresh again.

Re: Nostr

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post #289

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My point is that question is sort of a category error. It's like asking what type of business the internet is for, or what the use case of smart phones is. Here are a few things built on nostr, with specific use cases: primal.net is a twitter-like client with bitcoin micropayments and long-form articles (also see coracle.social, nosotros.app, jumble.social, Amethyst, Damus, yakihonne.com and many others); zap.stream…

"nostr is a simple distributed protocol to build internet applications for social networking, communication and media. It requires lightweight relay servers, as opposed to large federated servers like in mastodon or email, or fully p2p like scuttlebutt. It can be used to some extent via a browser using web clients, but it's best used alongside extensions for authentication and key management" That is what I'm looking…

>It requires lightweight relay servers, as opposed to large federated servers like in mastodon or email, or fully p2p like scuttlebutt.

Are there any good light weight relay servers you can recommend? I went to the site and the git repo, and https://njump.me

Are there any I assume open source ones?

Re: Nostr

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post #289

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My point is that question is sort of a category error. It's like asking what type of business the internet is for, or what the use case of smart phones is. Here are a few things built on nostr, with specific use cases: primal.net is a twitter-like client with bitcoin micropayments and long-form articles (also see coracle.social, nosotros.app, jumble.social, Amethyst, Damus, yakihonne.com and many others); zap.stream…

"nostr is a simple distributed protocol to build internet applications for social networking, communication and media. It requires lightweight relay servers, as opposed to large federated servers like in mastodon or email, or fully p2p like scuttlebutt. It can be used to some extent via a browser using web clients, but it's best used alongside extensions for authentication and key management" That is what I'm looking…

>It can be used to some extent via a browser using web clients, but it's best used alongside extensions for authentication and key management

Just wonder can the key just sit in the IndexDB? And it is decrypted on the client side (when user enters password to decrypt the key) to sign a message to send to peers or relay, they can verify your identity by checking against the corresponding public key.

Re: Nostr

#347
post #29

Even if you don't use Nostr as a microblogging social network, it can provide a useful layer. For example Trystero https://oxism.com/trystero (MIT licensed) can use it to establish P2P WebRTC connections without requiring a central server.

This is very interesting!

Can this forgo needing the STUN/TURN server? If this is the case then it is huge!

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