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Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Slack has been a down hill project for the past 5 years and has become incredibly bad.

Unfortunately,this should be the sentiment with all SaaS projects.

When a platform, like in this case, is inherent to the value proposition and can not easily be exchanged (building programs around it), one should consider self hosting.

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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post #333

What are people putting on their chat that makes them beholden to Slack? To me, the team chat app is like a terminal: it shows lines of text, but I don't expect to be able to find anything in the far future. A bit like a real-life conversation, once it's happened it turns into a vague memory. A full transcript is not that interesting. I thought maybe integrations, but those tend to be webhooks that display an alert.…

Slack Connect is also big. Having a chance to talk to most (if not all of your clients) from the same place where you talk to colleagues is a great thing. Far more bandwith than email, links, mentions, etc., so this is a big thing that other platforms lack.

Google, microsoft, apple, amazon, netflix etc. were all *built* using email. I don't see why all of a sudden people think that it's low bandwidth.

Not to mention that basically every scientific breakthrough achieved since 1995 was achieved using email as the *only* form of communication (other than physical letters here and there).

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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post #330

Tell Slack to go ** themselves, and move everything to a free platform that the teens and kids already use: Discord.

Not open either, so that'll go the same way in the end. People will want more money no? Or get bought and then the buyers want more money... Pick something open and self hosted OR that at least allows you to move everything and tinker with it yourself when (not if) the company becomes evilll.

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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I was ready to be unsympathetic - too bad for the company - but then I read TFA and it's a rug pull on a nonprofit teaching coding to kids.... https://hackclub.com/ (They do help clubs sell things, taking "7% of income", so they do have a revenue stream, but the money that Slack wants would pay a veritable army of student interns.)

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We know a fun and interesting thing and we want to share it.

You could use the same argument to stop teaching many other useful skills to kids. It's a bad argument.

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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post #57

I was ready to be unsympathetic - too bad for the company - but then I read TFA and it's a rug pull on a nonprofit teaching coding to kids.... https://hackclub.com/ (They do help clubs sell things, taking "7% of income", so they do have a revenue stream, but the money that Slack wants would pay a veritable army of student interns.)

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If you scare a bunch of kiddos gonna take over your job, maybe your job is not that important.

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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post #82

Since you're a nonprofit that teaches coding, it could be a great time to consider self-hosting a FOSS chat tool. Suggestions: Campfire [0] or Zulip [1]. Also, if the data in chat is being held hostage, the org might be using chat wrong. Right tool for right purpose. If starting over, perhaps consider if it would make sense to put that documentation or whatever it is that will get "lost" from Slack into a wiki or rep…

I'm in Hack Club, the team is moving all of us to self-hosted Mattermost. It is unfortunate that we have to re-code so many things though.

Matrix would be a better alternative

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Honestly, I did not know Salesforce had bought Slack. I would encourage everyone here to avoid that company - their business model seems to be create a spiderweb of critical touch points within an organisation and its data then suddenly hike prices. Certainly in this case but I’ve heard it happen with other products too.

From Larry Ellison his playbook; Benioff copied his former teacher well.

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Hey! I have an open-source project for browsing an exported slack archive, it may be useful to you so you can see and search the history: https://github.com/pkarolyi/slack-archive-browser I haven’t maintained it in a while since it works for us, but PRs are welcome :) A good first one would be adding non-slack authentication as currently it only supports Slack openid for logging in, but it uses next-auth and should b…

Mattermost also has a tutorial to import your slack messages https://docs.mattermost.com/administration-guide/onboard/mig...

From one walled garden to another?
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