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Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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Post by cassepipe »

xkbarkar wrote: post #290
pm90 wrote: post #18

If you're living in the US: please consider getting the vaccine, ragardless of your age. It was covered by my (rather shitty) health insurance. It consists of just 2 (EDIT: 3 for adults!) doses. It is recommended for both Males and Females.

In Denmark its not recommended for women over a certain age. So please don’t get it regardless of age. Its not really considered effective for women who have been sexually active for some time. Which is why its only recommended for girls, not women. https://www.ssi.dk/vaccinationer/boernevaccination/vaccinati... . Tldr; Dont rush to get a vaccine that is probably not effective for you. Make an appointment with your d…

Even if there's a small chance that it would make a difference, wouldn't it be worth it if you have the money and you feel like it's your duty to protect others ? At worst, it's useless and you have contributed to make a vaccine more profitable (which, IIUC is a problem for vaccines ?)

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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Post by whatevaa »

p1dda wrote: post #273
inglor_cz wrote: post #34

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This is now a global problem. The guy who started it, Andrew Wakefield, is British, and we have long had antivaxxers in Europe too. Prior to Covid, the antivaxx scene was vaguely left-and-green oriented, biomoms, vegans and other "very natural" people; you would expect them to vote for Greens or even more alternative parties. This changed abruptly and now the antivaxx scene is mostly rightwing, but the common base is…

That was the most ignorant comment I have seen on this matter. Nothing about vaccines, just attacks on the people questioning vaccine safety. If you truly believe all vaccines are completely safe I have a bridge to sell to you.

If you trully believe all vaccines are completely unsafe I have a different bridge to sell you.

Measles and polio are terrible diseases which were almost eradicated with vaccines. We are not talking about covid.

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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Post by starlust2 »

copperx wrote: post #326
arjie wrote: post #147

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It is actually not straightforward to do. Safeway Pharmacy refused to actually give me the vaccine when I showed up saying I'm not in a group that's eligible. One Medical told me that it would be a $400/shot 3-shot regimen. I'll probably just travel to India some time to visit family and get Cervavac there instead of Gardasil here. It's about $20/shot.

The Walgreens pharmacist scolded my 35 year old girlfriend for getting it, saying that it was useless at her age. She insisted and he reluctantly administered the first dose (and later got the rest at another location). He even questioned her motives for getting it once she was in the room. I was appalled by the whole interaction. Maybe I could have understood if I had said she was my wife. But it is still stupid to…

Even if you're married, you might not be married forever, could be in an open relationship, or a partner may cheat. None of which is the pharmacist's business.

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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Post by jl6 »

malfist wrote: post #330
copperx wrote: post #326

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The Walgreens pharmacist scolded my 35 year old girlfriend for getting it, saying that it was useless at her age. She insisted and he reluctantly administered the first dose (and later got the rest at another location). He even questioned her motives for getting it once she was in the room. I was appalled by the whole interaction. Maybe I could have understood if I had said she was my wife. But it is still stupid to…

Gotta love the logic of telling adults not to get the vaccine because its probably too late and you're already infected, while also telling parents not to give it to their kids because it's only for "prostitutes and promiscuous gay men" (per RFK)

I believe you are referring to comments made about the hepatitis B vaccine, not HPV.

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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Post by hylaride »

0xTJ wrote: post #196

That's great to hear! Here where I am, Ontario, Canada, I just barely missed out on getting the HPV vaccine for free in high school. At the time, they were only vaccinating girls, but added boys a year or two after me.

Check your (or your parent's) drug coverage insurance. You may be covered (mine is under the drug name gardasil).

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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Post by stared »

vidarh wrote: post #312
stared wrote: post #308

There is recent research showing that it can (slightly) help even during HPV infection, see "Effect of HPV Vaccination on Virus Disappearance in Cervical Samples of a Cohort of HPV-Positive Polish Patients", J Clin Med (2023) https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38137661/ . Also, the eligibility criterion of not vaccinating people above certain age is NOT valid. I mean, sooner better. But if you are adult and there is any…

> Also, the eligibility criterion of not vaccinating people above certain age is NOT valid. I mean, sooner better. But if you are adult and there is any chance that you ever get a new sexual parter, get a vaccine. The eligibility criterion has primary been about controlling cost to focus about the groups where the societal effect is greatest. I expect it may gradually get broadened, but most places you can also get i…

Prioritization makes a lot of sense.

At the same time, guidelines go differently, e.g. "Vaccination is not recommended for everyone older than age 26 years." from https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/hpv/hcp/recommendations.htm.... These things propagate among doctors and most of them do not recommend vaccination (contrary to modern research data!)

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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Post by [deleted] »

pyuser583 wrote: post #225
strictnein wrote: post #190

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It's a standard vaccine for preteen/teen boys now too. If your doctor has been telling you not to get it for the past 15 years, they've been doing you a disservice.

I haven’t been a preteen boy for the past 15 years.

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Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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Post by pimlottc »

loeg wrote: post #174
pimlottc wrote: post #159

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The issue is getting it covered by insurance. Otherwise it can cost over $1,000 for the full course of shots.

You can get costs down somewhat (half that) even uninsured with GoodRx.

Thanks for the recommendation! It seems like a good option, but afaict you still need to get your doctor to write you a prescription, and they may have to administer the shots as well:

https://support.goodrx.com/hc/en-us/articles/360000707483-Ho...

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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Post by russdill »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #298
russdill wrote: post #268

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Lots of diseases are potentially zoonotic. When diseases have animals in the name, it often just refers to zoonosis itself (except of course chickenpox). But when diseases or parasites have human in there name, it's almost always because it's a disease that only effects humans.

Note that there was a human flea, but it's extinct. The fleas you might actually find on a human are dog fleas.

The human flea is not extinct and is actually one of the counter examples as it does infect other species such as pigs.

Humans cannot host infestations of dog fleas. You can be bitten by a dog flea, but you cannot complete it's life cycle. If you find yourself constantly dealing with fleas, you are in the presence of an active infestation from another animal.

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