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Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

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Post by ShroudedNight »

Pxtl wrote: post #288
schlauerfox wrote: post #208

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I do wonder if there would be a workable law where companies are permanently responsible for what they produce, they must always accept back and responsibly recycle/break down to resources what they put out there, and do away with the shifting of responsibility of waste to society? Seems like a terrible engineering challenge but the right thing to do.

Disposal fees were a thing here in Ontario, the idea being that consumers should pay up-front for the cost of disposal, and therefore expensive-to-dispose things (like things containing batteries) should cost more. We rewarded the government that brought this plan in by replacing them with Doug Ford, the brother of the infamous late Toronto mayor Rob Ford who was a literal crack-smoking drunk.

I sure as fuck did not vote for Ford, directly or by the local MP proxy. However, I will readily acknowledge that at the time of the election that brought the Progressive Conservative party into power, the Ontario Liberal Party was giving off strong signals that it had essentially given up any attempt at excellence in its execution of public policy, and that it was seemingly bereft of significant insight beyond the then current state of governance.

They were also hindered by the public's perception of their performance in the matters of Ornge and Hydro One.

It seems strange to me to frame the results of that election as being a reward for re-internalizing the waste management costs of consumer products.

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Post by distances »

BizarroLand wrote: post #289
parliament32 wrote: post #223

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> I wonder when in the West we'll start mining rubbish dumps Never, because we have virtually unlimited space for landfills, and landfill tech has quietly been improving over the last few centuries, to the point that landfills are cheap, non-polluting, and entirely carbon neutral. Countries with less land mass (Europe et al) prefer incineration (mainly to save space, despite it being significantly worse for the envir…

Landfills are likely chock full of Aluminum, Nickel-Cadmium, Lithium, copper, brass, and all sorts of useful metals and chemicals. Sure, the grand majority is going to be food waste, but if you threw it all into an incinerator and melted down the ashes there is probably a decent blend of valuable material mixed in with the waste.

You don't have separate collection for food (bio) waste?

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Post by bjackman »

estimator7292 wrote: post #335
bjackman wrote: post #332

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Most of these vapes are reusable as vapes. They just get sold as disposable and the manufacturers don't include a refill mechanism. I am very strongly pro-vape more generally but disposable ones should absolutely be illegal. They only serve to a) make them more attractive to casual users (instead of people switching from tobacco) and b) generate waste. Zero benefit to society. There was a time when people could argue…

IMO the most egregious part is that all of these vapes come with perfectly good rechargable lithium batteries at a time where lithium is one of the most important resources. And they all just go into a landfill without ever being recharged once. It really should be criminal.

FWIW a ban came into force this summer in the UK. Rare W. Hopefully the rest of the world follows suit in time.

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Post by BizarroLand »

distances wrote: post #343
BizarroLand wrote: post #289

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Landfills are likely chock full of Aluminum, Nickel-Cadmium, Lithium, copper, brass, and all sorts of useful metals and chemicals. Sure, the grand majority is going to be food waste, but if you threw it all into an incinerator and melted down the ashes there is probably a decent blend of valuable material mixed in with the waste.

You don't have separate collection for food (bio) waste?

In the states it depends on the city/county/state and their legislation.

Some places do, some don't.

Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

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Post by forty »

numpad0 wrote: post #270
pbhjpbhj wrote: post #204

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>All that hardware must surely be worth more than half the value of the actual product! I'm constantly struck at how bread (a pastry, say) in a plastic tray, wrapped in plastic, is so crazy to me. The effort and technology that went, and goes, into oil extraction and such - only to throw the packaging away immediately that I get home ... it's just so unsustainable. I wonder when in the West we'll start mining rubbish…

Not sure how those are related. We only eat food coming in packaging comparable to transplanted organ because companies can't afford poisoning lawsuits because humans are so expensive. Lots of people especially those generally "up north" undermine risks and therefore costs of food poisoning, but it's real. Haven't those people seen things growing molds?

How is plastic on bread related with food poisoning? Here in France baguettes are wrapped in paper and are eaten within a day or two of being made (or else they get dry). if you keep them for long enough, molds will grow on it, then you see them and don't eat that old bread (even though it's unlikely to be too bad for most people, the taste is certainly not great). I'd be surprised if anyone ever got food poisoned with bread.

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Post by SpicyUme »

tonyhart7 wrote: post #257
dolmen wrote: post #218

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What about disassembling 1k dongles?

"What about disassembling 1k dongles?" deadass this literally what they do in china, they just disassemble e-waste that don't get used and resell that oversees

A relative bought several products from Chinese company for a small product development. When he found the most suited device he asked if they'd sell without the enclosure, and maybe 1-2 other boards. They told him at 1000 pcs the best option was to buy them and toss the enclosure.

Re: Hosting a website on a disposable vape

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Post by palata »

stockresearcher wrote: post #301
palata wrote: post #256

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Make a list of tolerated disposable electronics. RFID chips, maybe (and even then, not sure how much they are needed). What else? I don't think that I consume disposable electronics every day...

So they’ll get rebranded as decorative plastic sticks with a bonus temporary vaping feature, and the packaging will say that you must never throw it away, ever. I really hope you are starting to understand the difficulty in regulating products like this. A lot of people don’t want to do the right thing.

The law is meant to be interpreted. If a judge decides that you are bullshitting in order to sell an illegal product, you get a fine.

All we need is judges who do their job. Which is easier said than done, I'll admit it.

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Post by seabird »

bloqs wrote: post #19
Zak wrote: post #16

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I'm confused by why anybody would buy one of these when entirely reusable versions exist, but then vaping seems unwise to me in general except as a way to quit tobacco.

i have owned lots. they taste better than most permanent vapes. ive tried the whole buy all the best components and perfect juices etc with various tanks of different flavours. disposables just work and taste good, no leaks. they also have a logical end point like a pack of cigarettes. Its nice to switch flavour more frequently, and the packet/vape body colours pressed deep monkey brain buttons for fruit etc

50mg/ml disposable vape liquid tasting better than the freebase stuff is a crazy take. I haven't met a single person who was there before the modern disposable trash that doesn't think it's markedly worse. It tastes like gas station vape juice circa 2012.

Good reusable systems have been around for 10 years now. Disposables sell well because people like to think that they can quit whenever they want without having to abandon an investment (never mind that the investment in a refillable system is literally cheaper than a single disposable vape in many cases).

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