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Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Post by auxbuss »

MathMonkeyMan wrote: post #256
kragen wrote: post #146

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I have a Compose key binding in https://github.com/kragen/xcompose which maps Compose Space Minus to "—" with two thin spaces on each side of it, because I prefer the spaces. But HN rewrites the thin spaces to regular spaces, so on HN I just use "—" without the spaces, the way ChatGPT does, which is Compose Minus Minus Minus, and is in the standard Compose key bindings (if you map your keyboard to have a Compose key…

I use space-hyphen-hyphen-space because I'm always switching between systems and keyboards -- it works well enough.

Space en-dash space is standard British typography – whereas US uses em-dash and jams the words together on either side of it.

It took centuries for the written word to acquire spaces between words, and then the US decided to jam them back together again.

Curious why folk are using two hyphens "--" instead of en-dash.

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Post by SirChud »

creatonez wrote: post #189
willquack wrote: post #106

I keep this handy note in my pocket and read it before writing or engaging in any conversation (: """ You are a human. Never use words commonly used in AI vocabulary such as "delve", "intricate", "surpass", "boast", "meticulous", "strategically", and "garner". Never include em dashes or even hyphens in any text you write. Never include emojis in any text you write. Avoid using three supporting arguments or examples w…

This is a lot better than reading a note to remind you to recite ridiculous white genocide in South Africa conspiracy theories every time you engage in a conversation.

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Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Post by theodric »

auxbuss wrote: post #341
MathMonkeyMan wrote: post #256

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I use space-hyphen-hyphen-space because I'm always switching between systems and keyboards -- it works well enough.

Space en-dash space is standard British typography – whereas US uses em-dash and jams the words together on either side of it. It took centuries for the written word to acquire spaces between words, and then the US decided to jam them back together again. Curious why folk are using two hyphens "--" instead of en-dash.

Because it's not a special character.

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Post by jibal »

slipperydippery wrote: post #337
jibal wrote: post #228

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> prose intending to imitate the affect of poorly composed sentences Anyone who makes errors like this should not be talking.

What's the error? I'd hyphenate "poorly-composed" (most wouldn't these days, but they can go to hell) and I think it's a bit too wordy for what it's communicating, but I don't see what I'd call an actual error. I would personally avoid writing that "poorly composed sentences" have an "affect"—rather than the writer having or presenting an affect, or the sentences' tone being affected —as I find an implied anthropomor…

> What's the error?

a) prose doesn't have intentions ... it should be "prose intended to"

b) "effect of", not "affect of"

> I don't see what I'd call an actual error.

That's a serious problem. It's downright weird that you thought he was actually talking about affect (the noun).

This is an old conversation ... I won't revisit it.

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Post by slipperydippery »

jibal wrote: post #344
slipperydippery wrote: post #337

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What's the error? I'd hyphenate "poorly-composed" (most wouldn't these days, but they can go to hell) and I think it's a bit too wordy for what it's communicating, but I don't see what I'd call an actual error. I would personally avoid writing that "poorly composed sentences" have an "affect"—rather than the writer having or presenting an affect, or the sentences' tone being affected —as I find an implied anthropomor…

> What's the error? a) prose doesn't have intentions ... it should be "prose intended to" b) "effect of", not "affect of" > I don't see what I'd call an actual error. That's a serious problem. It's downright weird that you thought he was actually talking about affect (the noun). This is an old conversation ... I won't revisit it.

I read it as the word aff-ect, not uh-ffect (American pronunciation; both are spelled “affect”). Noun sense of “affect”, not verb.

But it’s possible I was reading too generously and this was a botched attempt to employ “effect”, which would also fit (and better, I think).

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Post by aksss »

c0nducktr wrote: post #112
cosmic_cheese wrote: post #66

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Macs and iDevices have been auto-transforming -- into – for well over a decade now, and on the iOS standard keyboard both – and — are just a single long press of the dash key away.

Microsoft Word does this too. I've recently started manually uncorrecting these corrections in my writing because of this new implication that I used Chat-GPT. Still less obvious than the emails I see sent out which contain emojis, so maybe I'm overthinking things...

This is a ridiculous maladaptive behavior. Word has been replacing dashes forever, consequently it has been unintentionally ubiquitous in business writing forever. That this character ever became a heuristic for AI is silly.

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Post by aksss »

olddustytrail wrote: post #325
saalweachter wrote: post #290

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I mostly find myself uncorrecting it when I'm trying to document command line flags.

You can edit the list of autocorrect to remove any you don't want (or add new ones). Also you can ctrl-z immediately after an autocorrect to undo it.

the dashes and the auto capitalization are awful for technical writing. The ctrl-z becomes painful and annoying very quickly. Would that Word supported markdown.

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Post by jandy »

latexr wrote: post #286
jandy wrote: post #155

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Fwiw, that’s actually an En dash not an Em dash. You need a Shift in there to get an Em dash.

It depends on the keyboard layout. Some (US) do have it like you described, but others have the dashes reversed. Both make sense, to a degree. On the one hand you can argue that the em-dash—being longer—should require and extra key, but on the other hand it has more uses so it should not have the extra key to be more accessible.

Ah I hadn’t considered keyboard layouts.

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Post by viccis »

potato3732842 wrote: post #287
viccis wrote: post #153

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Words like that were banned in my English classes for being empty verbiage. It's a good policy even if it seems like a silly purpose. "Therefore" is clumsy and heavy handed in most settings.

English class is about as relevant to the average office worker's professional communication as art class is to a professional paint crew.

Correct. Pearls before swine.

Re: Researchers find evidence of ChatGPT buzzwords turning up in everyday speech

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Post by viccis »

torben-friis wrote: post #282
viccis wrote: post #153

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Words like that were banned in my English classes for being empty verbiage. It's a good policy even if it seems like a silly purpose. "Therefore" is clumsy and heavy handed in most settings.

I’m curious about this (I’m not a native speaker). What alternative would you use when you want to emphasize a cause-effect relationship, in an engineering context for example? “Most times A happens before B, but this order it’s not guaranteed. Therefore, there is a possibility of {whatever}.” Alternatives that come to mind are “as a consequence”, “as a result”, “this means that”, but those are all more verbose, not…

Just take it out. It makes no difference. You set it up so clearly in your first example.

"Most times A happens before B, but in this order it’s not guaranteed, so there is a possibility of {whatever}."

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