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Re: Sequoia backs Zed

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Have you even ever watched someone experienced using Emacs or you're making assumptions on your (I suppose limited experience)? The "distraction" framing assumes everyone has the same preferences and working style, I for one find VSCode (and IDEs in general) massively distracting from productively solving many tasks. No, it's not "a skill" issue - I have used InteliJ every single day for almost a decade, diving into…

>>Have you even ever watched someone experienced using Emacs or you're making assumptions on your (I suppose limited experience)? I am one of those experienced Emacs users myself. Wrote more stuff in Emacs and even vim than most devs today will even write code over their careers. Its just vscode now does simply too many things out of the box, you obviously can recreate that in Emacs, but its a pointless exercise. Tim…

> Wrote more stuff in Emacs

Can you name Emacs packages you've authored, maintained or contributed to?

> vscode now does simply too many things out of the box

Oh yeah? Can you edit your filesystem in VSCode like a wiki? Changing directories and filenames as if you're editing plain text? Can any of thousand of its extensions provide "indirect buffer" experience? Can you bind a double tap of the comma to navigate to the last error and automatically fix it? Can you at all bind to double/tripple comma or just about any arbitrary key based on context in VSCode? Keyboard macros with counters - e.g. to transform lists into numbered lists? True buffer based (not file oriented) workflows? Occur-mode style search and replace? Comint style process interaction? Are there any extensions that allow you to move the cursor to the piece of a plain text like "rfc-3540" or "myproj#4044", intelligently recognize it and allow you to browse the RFC document or review a Pull-Request - Emacs does. Can you run a shell command and pipe it into a buffer, or pipe the content of a buffer through series of shell commands and into another buffer?

> I totally stopped using Org-mode, because Google docs do it way better.

Don't be ridiculous. They are completely different classes of products. If you are even having to compare Org-mode with GDocs, perhaps you don't know well either or both. GDocs can't manage my dotfiles. I can't use it to annotate books or academic papers. I can't have inline LaTeX formulas in GDocs. It can't let me control a videoplayer and type my notes at the same time. I can't use it to manage my flashcards or keep the log of my LLM interactions there. I can't have executable blocks of code - in org-mode I can explore APIs or send SQL queries while passing them into data transforming code blocks. There are no TODO states/keywords in GDocs, no agenda views, no scheduling/deadlines, no time tracking/clocking, no habit tracking, no pomodoro timers, no dynamic time tables, no tag-based filtering, no capture/refile system.

> At some point you have to move on

Like I told you already, you're assuming too broadly. Both VSCode and Google Docs are excellent products - no denying that, but they are not universally better. If you came to the opposite conclusion, it is yours, and yours only.

Re: Sequoia backs Zed

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I have never seen so much virtue signaling and moral superiority in a GitHub issue. What a joke.

There is an active genocide going on as we speak. I am sorry if you find boycotting those who support it is virtue signalling and a joke.

I don't see anyone boycotting github, cisco, dropbox, figma and many other companies that where/are founded by sequoia and to this day do fishy stuff and have questionable people on their seats. But sure, let's boycott the open source startup that wants to pay their devs for writing code but let's keep hosting our code on github owned by microsoft which provides Israel with compute power for mass surveillance, that makes total sense.

Re: Sequoia backs Zed

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I don't know why you are being downvoted. This is a real issue and a legitimate concern to have as a user of this software. I feel the same way (never used Zed in the first place because they are VC backed, but this would have been the final straw for me, too).

Because dragging politics into things is fucking obnoxious . It's off-topic, it gets people riled up so they are arguing about politics instead of having substantive discussion, and it degrades the community by threatening to destroy the focus on tech in favor of political slap fights. In short, going out of your way to bring up politics is being a jerk, and people don't appreciate that.

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Re: Sequoia backs Zed

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Yeah, as others already mentioned, I think they sat on their laurels for a bit too long and let VSCode overtake it. For what it's worth, I went from ST3 -> VSCode -> ST4, and have been happy since. I've found that I prefer my text editor with minimal extensions, and with Sublime Text's LSP Plugin, I'm pretty content. The performance and customizable UI make it more worth it to me than VSCode.

I think it's less that they sat on their laurels and more that a team of 2 had trouble keeping up with the dozens of well-paid folks working on VSCode. Which suggests that perhaps a shareware model did not work out so well for them.

If they were already having trouble keeping up, then perhaps taking years off and building Sublime Merge wasn't the right strategy.

Re: Sequoia backs Zed

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Whilst rust is a big part of this it is not the core of their innovation. Pushing everything to the GPU is. Stating that everyone else is building on Electron belies your lack of exposure to any editors other than vscode \ atom spin offs. Realistically all the editors including those based on Electron could easily shift to leveraging the GPU more and that would be big leap forward for performance.

> Stating that everyone else is building on Electron belies your lack of exposure to any editors other than vscode \ atom spin offs. Enlighten me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_integrated_devel...

It's not hard to look, I would wager a small percentage of these editors are Electron based.

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