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Re: FFmpeg moves to Forgejo

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Krssst wrote: post #311
debugnik wrote: post #300

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> hopefully nobody is triggered by this kind of art Apparently a good chunk of HN is. Anubis-tan seems to me the main reason that this comment section about FFmpeg and Forgejo has devolved into a debate about Anubis; more than the intersitial page itself.

That's too bad, I wonder what's so triggering about it. OSS projects are mostly done by people on their free time, they can do whatever they want with their mascots/branding/project. And those OSS projects tend to be significantly more respectful of users than the average modern software so on my side I tend to see those kind of harmless personal touches quite positively, sign of software that is made with the user i…

The problem is when those choices end up on about every project making up the open source ecosystem. Nor weird tastes and fetishes don't belong there.

Re: FFmpeg moves to Forgejo

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xena wrote: post #182
bakugo wrote: post #176

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Is there anything stopping anyone from just making a fork and removing it manually?

It's MIT licensed software. You can do whatever you want as long as you comply with the terms of the license. I can also choose to allocate my time wherever I want.

People are also free to call you out on your shit tastes though.

Re: FFmpeg moves to Forgejo

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c0balt wrote: post #72
mpalmer wrote: post #60

With the calm, respectful understanding that everything is subjective and there's no accounting for taste - and in my personal capacity - I do not understand how cutesy anime characters have been deemed sufficiently tasteful/professional/anodyne enough to be displayed to literally every single person who visits my site. With apologies to fans of the art style, it is a negative signal to me. I do not prefer to use Clo…

> but I would not use Anubis unless I could disable the imagery, and every time I see it on another site, I think: "hm. weird. whose branding is this?" They do offer an unbranded version, botstopper. It is part of their commercial offering [0] and intended for "professional" environments [0]: https://anubis.techaro.lol/docs/admin/botstopper

IMO this makes it even worse - not only are FOSS projects now happily putting DRM on their websites, they also add ads for a commercial service.

Re: FFmpeg moves to Forgejo

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TJSomething wrote: post #130
userbinator wrote: post #95

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I couldn't care less about the art, but the user-agent discrimination is far worse. Implying that anyone not using an "officially sanctioned" browser is an AI bot is such a devious scheme that I don't think even Google themselves would've come up with it.

I think you've got the logic backwards. It defaults to assuming that user agents that have "Mozilla" in them might be bots. Uncommon browsers don't get challenged. It wouldn't make sense for bad faith bots to use uncommon, easy to block user agents.

Interesting. I guess I'll have to write an extensions to make open source websites usable again. I feel like at some point this will be "fixed" though.

Re: FFmpeg moves to Forgejo

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pyridines wrote: post #132
mpalmer wrote: post #101

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Not sure what you're referring to, or what you mean by "it's just art style". It's a style that is likely to clash with the website branding it precedes, in my opinion .

they're referring to the infamous Corporate Memphis style which is frequently used in big tech branding: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_Memphis

... and which is also reviled by many, making it an odd point to bring up.

Re: FFmpeg moves to Forgejo

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userbinator wrote: post #254
forrestthewoods wrote: post #106

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> It's just art style. Art styles aren't picked randomly out of a hat. Humans are pattern matching machines and will draw conclusions based on choice of art style or mascot. > classic corporate caricature of a person with unnatural body proportions Corporate Memphis is an abomination and I harshly judge any company that uses it. Everyone hates Corporate Memphis and makes fun of it.

IMHO Corporate Memphis is much worse than anime art. "You have small brain" is the message it seems to imply.

IMO both styles have that message.

Re: FFmpeg moves to Forgejo

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gblargg wrote: post #144
mpalmer wrote: post #60

With the calm, respectful understanding that everything is subjective and there's no accounting for taste - and in my personal capacity - I do not understand how cutesy anime characters have been deemed sufficiently tasteful/professional/anodyne enough to be displayed to literally every single person who visits my site. With apologies to fans of the art style, it is a negative signal to me. I do not prefer to use Clo…

Worse, it prevents people with older browsers from even visiting the site.

Yes it's DRM but somehow acceptable now (it shouldn't be).

Re: FFmpeg moves to Forgejo

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numpad0 wrote: post #215
mpalmer wrote: post #60

With the calm, respectful understanding that everything is subjective and there's no accounting for taste - and in my personal capacity - I do not understand how cutesy anime characters have been deemed sufficiently tasteful/professional/anodyne enough to be displayed to literally every single person who visits my site. With apologies to fans of the art style, it is a negative signal to me. I do not prefer to use Clo…

~15 years ago I'd come across tweets sharing how European art teachers are struggling with cultural intrusions of anime into fine arts(lol), ~10 years ago Chinese companies started serving anime-style online games, ~5 years ago COVID kickstarted VTubers in anglosphere, now an anime art is in a major OSS like an AC/DC reference. It's funny how vehemently people respond to anime the first time, it's often so strong tha…

If anything, I have only grown to hate the style more the more it is pushed everywhere.

Re: FFmpeg moves to Forgejo

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Post by account42 »

ptman wrote: post #330
nightpool wrote: post #139

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Forejo is/was a soft fork of Gitea due to some licensing / trademark bruhaha that I think got blown somewhat out of proportion. (And Gitea was famous for using Github instead of dogfooding their own software, which I've always thought was a pretty strange choice). I'm not familiar enough with the development roadmap of both teams to make a good call on whether following the fork is a good idea or not, but I know a lo…

There is a plan for hosting gitea on gitea: https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea/issues/1029

Yes but the project is almost a decade old. If they can't use it themselves by now why would anyone else.

Re: FFmpeg moves to Forgejo

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Post by Krssst »

account42 wrote: post #341
Krssst wrote: post #311

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That's too bad, I wonder what's so triggering about it. OSS projects are mostly done by people on their free time, they can do whatever they want with their mascots/branding/project. And those OSS projects tend to be significantly more respectful of users than the average modern software so on my side I tend to see those kind of harmless personal touches quite positively, sign of software that is made with the user i…

The problem is when those choices end up on about every project making up the open source ecosystem. Nor weird tastes and fetishes don't belong there.

I fail to what hard choice there is to make. Choices are:

* use it

* don't use it

* use something else

* pay to change the picture

Easy.

> fetishes

And what fetish would that be? That's just a picture of a girl (maybe? Not sure they were ever gendered) holding a magnifying glass, if that's improper I'm not sure what is proper.

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