Isn't UK a democracy? Why then have the people not rejected the initiative? Ah, right - they haven't even been asked.
Its a democracy in that we vote for the next people to ignore all their campaign promises and screw us over
Facial recognition vans to be rolled out across police forces in England
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Re: Facial recognition vans to be rolled out across police forces in England
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The first time I taught, it was a rather interesting experience realizing how little capacity teachers actually have to deal with e.g. a disruptive student. Yeah you can pass them along to the disciplinarian or whatever, but in the end it's often empty threats - especially if the parents themselves don't particularly care, which in the case of highly disruptive students is nearly always the case. But if a class itsel…
I was taking an intercity coach to Glasgow recently and a teenage kid was on his phone browsing social media without headphones. I made a comment that he should use headphones or turn the volume off. He got defensive and angry. I did not to escalate, and put my earplugs on. I do believe certain parcels of the society need to be restrained.
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#343Earlier quoted context omitted.
You say "on its way" as if it hasn't been at the forefront of this for decades. Until China and post-9/11 US ramped up facial recognition and CCTV projects MASSIVELY, the UK didn't just have more CCTV units per capita than anywhere else on Earth, they had the most in absolute terms. Even now last I checked the UK has about 1 camera for every 11 people.
Singapore should have that beat. I’m not saying the UK isn’t nuts for CCTV, it’s just that Sg feels like it is on another level.
Singapore has a much lower crime rate though.
Re: Facial recognition vans to be rolled out across police forces in England
#344Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was taking an intercity coach to Glasgow recently and a teenage kid was on his phone browsing social media without headphones. I made a comment that he should use headphones or turn the volume off. He got defensive and angry. I did not to escalate, and put my earplugs on. I do believe certain parcels of the society need to be restrained.
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The parent said teenager - race was not mentioned.
Re: Facial recognition vans to be rolled out across police forces in England
#345Either the England is a shithole overrun with crime, or English elites are paranoid. Locals can tell me which one it is.
That could be a false dichotomy.
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#346Who is pushing this within the UK- government aside? I want some avenues of search that help me make sense of where the world is heading. Thanks. Can email my proton proxy in my profile if you want to be discreet. I have a whole life ahead of me and need to know how to prepare.
Even within the government I can’t understand how a democratically elected politician could support something like this.
maybe democracy isn't so great after all ...
Re: Facial recognition vans to be rolled out across police forces in England
#347The UK is quickly deploying surveillance state technology that people once decried China for. Whether or not this is ethical or useful, I wish the hypocrisy would be acknowledged. The OSA, the Apple encryption demands, LFR, …, it’s clearly a trend. Has society really become this dangerous that we must deploy these things?
It's worth recognising this is a very, very limited application of facial recognition, and miles away from what China deploys (or what's regularly used in the US)
Re: Facial recognition vans to be rolled out across police forces in England
#348The UK is quickly deploying surveillance state technology that people once decried China for. Whether or not this is ethical or useful, I wish the hypocrisy would be acknowledged. The OSA, the Apple encryption demands, LFR, …, it’s clearly a trend. Has society really become this dangerous that we must deploy these things?
They've been doing this for years at protests, using "Forward Intelligence Teams". Even back in 2010 [1] there was an action group trying to protest this growing police-state (Fitwatch). The UK has had an insane number of CCTV cameras for as long as I can remember. Must be a truly dangerous place... https://web.archive.org/web/20100824175032/http://fitwatch.o...
The fact the UK police deploy teams with cameras to record crime is really not the dystopian hellscape Fitwatch like to make out it is.
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#349This is the same country that couldn’t introduce driver’s licences with pictures for privacy and surveillance for years. What happened?
Increased paranoia among the rulers because of their guilty conscience.
Pretty much. The more they fear the blowback of the actions of civilisation, the more this in power try to hold any semblance of normality in place by force.
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#350If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear. We are going to be hearing that argument a lot as the AI police state evolves
"It's not that I have something to hide. It's that I have nothing I want you to see."
A great quote from an otherwise OK movie ("Anon").