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Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything

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That or an emdash

I like using emdesh and now i have to stop because this became a meme

You’re not alone: https://xkcd.com/3126/

Incidentally, you seem to have been shadowbanned[1]: almost all of your comments appear dead to me.

[1] https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented/blob/m...

Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything

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This is actually very frustrating and was partially hindering the progress with my pet assembler.

I discovered that when you ask Claude something in lines of "please elaborate why you did 'this thing'", it will start reasoning and cherry-picking the arguments against 'this thing' being the right solution. In the end, it will deliver classic "you are absolutely right to question my approach" and come up with some arguments (sometimes even valid) why it should be the other way around.

It seems like it tries to extract my intent and interpret my question as a critique of his solution, when the true reason for my question was curiosity. Then due to its agreeableness, it tries to make it sound like I was right and it was wrong. Super annoying.

Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything

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I've spent a lot of time trying to get LLM to generate things in a specific way, the biggest take away I have is, if you tell it "don't do xyz" it will always have in the back of its mind "do xyz" and any chance it gets it will take to "do xyz" When working on art projects, my trick is to specifically give all feedback constructively, carefully avoiding framing things in terms of the inverse or parts to remove.

I've found this effect to be true with engagement algorithms as well, such as Youtube's thumbs-down, or 'don't show me this channel' 'Don't like this content', Spotify's thumbs down. Netflix's thumbs down.

Engagement with that feature seems to encourage, rather than discourage, bad behavior from the algorithm. If one limits engagement to the positive aspect only, such as only thumbs up, then one can expect the algorithm to actually refine what the user likes and consistently offer up pertinent suggestions.

The moment one engages with that nefarious downvote though... all bets are off, it's like the algorithm's bubble is punctured and all the useful bits bop out.

Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything

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This illustrates the dangers of training on Reddit.

I'm sure if you ask it for any relationship advice, it will eventually take the Reddit path and advise you to dump/divorce your partner, cut off all contact, and involve the police for a restraining order.

“My code crashes, what did I do wrong?”

“NTA, the framework you are using is bad and should be ashamed of itself. What you can try to work around the problem is …”

Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything

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I'm pretty sure they want it kissing people's asses because it makes users feel good and therefore more likely to use the LLM more. Versus, if it just gave a curt and unfriendly answer, most people (esp. Americans) wouldn't like to use it as much. Just a hypothesis.

I'm curious what Americans have to do with this, do you have any sources to back up your conjecture, or is this just prejudice?

> ... do you have any sources to back up your conjecture, or is this just prejudice?

Let me guess, you consider yourself a progressive left democrat.

Do I have any source for that? No, but I noticed a pattern where progressive left democrats ask for a source to discredit something that is clearly a personal observation or opinion, and by its nature doesn't require any sources.

The only correct answer is: it's an opinion, accept it or refute it yourself, you don't need external validation to participate in an argument. Or maybe you need ;)

Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything

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ChatGPT opened with a "Nope" the other day. I'm so proud of it. https://chatgpt.com/share/6896258f-2cac-800c-b235-c433648bf4...

Is that GPT5? Reddit users are freaking out about losing 4o and AFAICT it's because 5 doesn't stroke their ego as hard as 4o. I feel there are roughly two classes of heavy LLM users - one who use it like a tool, and the other like a therapist. The latter may be a bigger money maker for many LLM companies so I worry GPT5 will be seen as a mistake to them, despite being better for research/agent work.

We should all be deeply worried about gpt being used as a therapist. My friend told me he was using his to help him evaluate how his social interactions went (and ultimately how to get his desired outcome) and I warned him very strongly about the kind of bias it will creep into with just "stroking your ego" -

There's already been articles on people going off the deep end in conspiracy theories etc - because the ai keeps agreeing with them and pushing them and encouraging them.

This is really a good start.

Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything

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Grok. These were all in continuation, not first reply. > Thank you for sharing the underlying Eloquent query... > The test is failing because... > Here’s a bash script that performs... > Got it, you meant... > Based on the context... > Thank you for providing the additional details...

3/6 of those are sycophant.

Best one of all LLMs I’ve tried so far. And not only in sycophancy.

Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything

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Warning: A natural response to this is to instruct Claude not to do this in the CLAUDE.md file, but you’re then polluting the context and distracting it from its primary job.

If you watch its thinking, you will see references to these instructions instead of to the task at hand.

It’s akin telling an employee that they can never say certain words. They’re inevitably going to be worse at their job.

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