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Re: uBlock Origin Lite now available for Safari

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Post by dylan604 »

zevon wrote: post #303
dylan604 wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It helps to realize that the search is less of a tool for you to find information and more of a tool to show you an ad targeted on your search query. That's why ads are the top results and the organic data you wanted is after the fold. You're asking an ad company for information, and you don't expect an ad as a result? They are only continuing to show the organic results to tease you into coming back..

The original comment was about Apple's App Store. I assume there are financial ways to get your App "featured" there or something like that but as far as I know, you can't financially take direct influence on whatever logic Apple uses to sort search results there. Yet, it can still be spectacularly difficult to find an App - even if you type in its exact name, as indicated by OP (can confirm from my experience). If y…

Most ad sales platforms have auctions for ad slots and/or keywords. If you want to game the system and have money to burn as growth hacking, you can place a larger value in those auctions/keywords to win a chance at your ad being placed in front of more eyeballs. When it comes to apps/games especially, people will chose whatever is posted from laziness, fomo, or just tired of looking and picking the easy route. I suspect that when you get an unrelated ad to your search, it's because someone else was willing to spend more money for those search terms than someone with more relevant matches. It's always going to be about those Benjamins.

Re: uBlock Origin Lite now available for Safari

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Post by robertoandred »

LAC-Tech wrote: post #337

Finally IOS users can experience what I do on my cheap android phones where I've been playing youtube ad-free on firefox mobile for about a decade.

Do you think uBlock is the only ad blocker? Safari on iOS has had ad blockers for ten years.

Re: uBlock Origin Lite now available for Safari

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Post by ezfe »

mary-ext wrote: post #114
shawnz wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ad blockers on Safari effectively have the same weaknesses as ad blockers on Chrome now have since the deprecation of the blocking webRequest API (which Safari never supported). See https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-b... for some examples of things you can't do without those APIs.

that said, gorhill has made a decent effort on making most uBlock/Adguard filter rules work within dNR. the only problem is that you just don't have any choice for custom filters, it relies on prebaked resources.

Which is not a Safari restriction. Applications are allowed to revise those resources, they are not hardcoded into the bundle.

Re: uBlock Origin Lite now available for Safari

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Post by ezfe »

LAC-Tech wrote: post #337

Finally IOS users can experience what I do on my cheap android phones where I've been playing youtube ad-free on firefox mobile for about a decade.

iOS has had adblockers that work with YouTube for years...uBlock origin is good but it's not the only one

Re: uBlock Origin Lite now available for Safari

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Post by zevon »

dylan604 wrote: post #341
zevon wrote: post #303

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The original comment was about Apple's App Store. I assume there are financial ways to get your App "featured" there or something like that but as far as I know, you can't financially take direct influence on whatever logic Apple uses to sort search results there. Yet, it can still be spectacularly difficult to find an App - even if you type in its exact name, as indicated by OP (can confirm from my experience). If y…

Most ad sales platforms have auctions for ad slots and/or keywords. If you want to game the system and have money to burn as growth hacking, you can place a larger value in those auctions/keywords to win a chance at your ad being placed in front of more eyeballs. When it comes to apps/games especially, people will chose whatever is posted from laziness, fomo, or just tired of looking and picking the easy route. I sus…

I get that it's always be about money in the end but I understand this sub-thread to be a bit more specific: Is there an ad sales platform run by Apple where your Benjamins have influence on the search ranking in the App Store? I and many other people here are not talking about things that are clearly ads (like a "featured" result or the ads shown by google and other search engines).

Re: uBlock Origin Lite now available for Safari

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Post by ndkap »

hakunin wrote: post #217
hakunin wrote: post #185

Weird, it's installed but it won't let me enable it in Safari. The "enable" checkbox is inactive. Safari 18.5 on MacOS Sequoia 15.5. Restarting the browser, and reinstalling the extension has no effect.

Solution: update to Sequoia 15.6 (which comes with Safari 18.6) and it works.

This makes me think that UBO Lite wasnt possible without something Apple added in the latest version. Is this true? Did they finally add something to Safari allowing UBO Lite to finally be made? Is that why UBO Lite for Safari didnt exist until now?

Re: uBlock Origin Lite now available for Safari

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Post by concinds »

People should be way more upset at the fact that Safari adblocking today is still inferior to even MV3 Google Chrome. Apple's implementation of declarativeNetRequest was semi-broken until the very latest iOS 18.6.

Apple can do the bare minimum, years after everyone else, and barely get called out. The Reality Distortion Field is the enemy.

Also funny that other devs had the gall to make people pay (sometimes subscriptions!) for Safari adblockers inferior to the free adblockers on any other browser.

Re: uBlock Origin Lite now available for Safari

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Post by DrewADesign »

asimpletune wrote: post #156
ffsm8 wrote: post #132

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Same for me, But OSX seems to have a similar issue at least on my MacBook Pro M1. I occasionally get the multicolor disk spinner which locks all UI interactions for a few seconds (10-30s) until it unfreezes and works as before again... Haven't been able to figure out the exact cause for it, feels very random.

I think it got slow on M1 when AI features came out. I recently disabled them in and trying that out.

Don’t do that! You’ll be left behind by society— rendered penniless and fatally inconvenienced by the lack of tooling to exponentially improve your productivity!

Re: uBlock Origin Lite now available for Safari

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Post by kccqzy »

concinds wrote: post #348

People should be way more upset at the fact that Safari adblocking today is still inferior to even MV3 Google Chrome. Apple's implementation of declarativeNetRequest was semi-broken until the very latest iOS 18.6. Apple can do the bare minimum, years after everyone else, and barely get called out. The Reality Distortion Field is the enemy. Also funny that other devs had the gall to make people pay (sometimes subscrip…

I agree with you regarding how Apple can do the bare minimum and barely get called out. But the fact is, I don't know of anything who's using declarativeNetRequest on Safari. The ecosystem of Safari blocking is centered around the legacy technology of content blockers from 2015. And the legacy technology works well enough that there's no pressure for either Apple or adblocker developers to adopt the new thing.
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