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Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

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Post by nchmy »

gwd wrote: post #295
oefrha wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A good lesson that you should NOT do shady shit?

Do you never ever do anything that's wrong? If so, well, I guess good for you; but the rest of us sometimes screw up. There needs to be a path for redemption. Admit you were at fault, make it right, do better next time. ETA And , it doesn't matter whether people do the above steps because they "really mean it", or because they're just afraid of the consequences otherwise; any more than it matters, from a societal per…

you're conflating (obfuscating?) honest oversights with what seems to be a clearly and intentionally dishonest series of actions

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

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Post by conartist6 »

danielpkl wrote: post #92

Hi everyone, this is Daniel from the Pickle team. Glass is a new open source project from us that we plan to build on and improve. We built several original features for it like live summaries, real-time STT Transcript and one-click "Ask" from summary that we're very excited about. However in initially building it we included code from a GPL-licensed project that we incorrectly attributed as Apache. This was incorrec…

Can I ask if this was an LLM mistake?

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

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Post by Nextgrid »

whilenot-dev wrote: post #336
gryfft wrote: post #327

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought tech companies were supposed to move fast and break stuff.

I think that phrase was coined in an era when the tech sector moved so fast that the prevailing law couldn't keep up. It caught up somewhat, but obviously there's still much leeway for improvement. Break all the wrong habits, rigid conventions and old traditions you want, just play along with the governing laws.

> the tech sector moved so fast that the prevailing law couldn't keep up

That's an extremely charitable interpretation.

A more realistic interpretation is that the law was up to date, just that enforcement couldn't keep up because 1) nobody expected such a brazen level of breaking the law and 2) justice doesn't really apply when you have enough capital.

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

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Post by whoisthemachine »

gpderetta wrote: post #299
JonChesterfield wrote: post #246

"Fair enough. Since this was our first OSS project, we didn’t realize at first. We’ve now revised it. Thanks for your contribution." We didn't notice that we copied your codebase, changed the name then pretended to have built it in four days? Good grief.

"we are sorry we got caught"

"In our next OSS project we will steal more carefully"

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

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Post by btown »

Havoc wrote: post #220

To a casual outside observer the quality of the companies YC invests in seems to have absolutely cratered. Have they just given up on vetting and switched to a throw money at everything approach?

Dreamworld (YC W21) is relevant here:

https://www.pcgamer.com/dreamworld-infinite-world-mmo-kickst...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27319457

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26898266

https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/dreamworld

To be sure, there's nothing wrong with the idea that modern computers and distributed computing techniques can handle streaming updates for a significantly higher scale of concurrent same-world users than prior-generation MMOs. But clearly something unexpected happened here, and while I completely understand the lack of a public post-mortem, I hope that YC has examined why its mentorship model and community were unable to set up this team for, if not success, at least having greater integrity in its relations with its userbase.

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

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Post by retsibsi »

Y-bar wrote: post #178
timewizard wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So when someone is actively losing their rights you feel the need to go out of your way to say you're unsympathetic. What did you /intend/ to convey with this? You support them, but at this dark moment, you felt the need to kick their shins also?

I initially downvoted you, but on second thought I’m actually a bit sympathetic to your argument. We see a similar pattern happening elsewhere. E.g. US citizens being round up by paramilitary forces and shuttled without due process to places which can almost be described as concentration camps. All for the stated crime of maybe entering the country improperly. The argument goes that they do not deserve anything else…

There's no inconsistency in holding both of these positions:

- the original software is clearly unethical, and I bear no goodwill toward its developer

- I support the consistent enforcement of the GPL

In a case like this, I think it's natural to state both points. If we only focus on the second, we may be contributing to a groundswell of support for the original project/developer. That's distasteful when we only want to narrowly support their right to have their licensing terms respected.

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

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Post by macintux »

Hasnep wrote: post #332
xandrius wrote: post #291

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Probably you've been out of the getting hired game but I had a glimpse of it last year: absolutely terrible. When I started you'd send a mail to the company directly about a position, you'd go to the office, have a short interview, meet the team and they'll let you know. That's it. Now it's 2 rounds of HR bs, 3 layers of tech interviews, then meet the CEO/CTO/etc. And then references and then a final "chat". And you…

A two week probation means that nearly all candidates will need to quit their current job to do the probation which seems unlikely to be popular with candidates

Right. The only way I’d accept an “opportunity” like that is if I’m unemployed.

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

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Post by whoisthemachine »

whilenot-dev wrote: post #336
gryfft wrote: post #327

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought tech companies were supposed to move fast and break stuff.

I think that phrase was coined in an era when the tech sector moved so fast that the prevailing law couldn't keep up. It caught up somewhat, but obviously there's still much leeway for improvement. Break all the wrong habits, rigid conventions and old traditions you want, just play along with the governing laws.

Its original intended meaning was sometimes breaking your social website, not laws.
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