These assclowns are designing for emotions, not usability. And the send button example is the best example why this is an abomination.
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#342Modern UI is a crime against humanity. I did not think there were new depths to the depravity, yet here we are. Society has been backsliding since XP.
I wonder if XP fondness dates you to a certain age bracket. Yeah new UIs seem disorganized and inconsistent to me but I feel the best consistency in UI was hit around Windows 95-98 but then again that's when I was in my young adult years. Maybe the kids feel this new crap is how UI should be done...
Some people despised the XP UI when it first came out to a lot of fanfare. To this day, "Fisher-Price UI" is strongly associated with it.
Most people seem to think that whatever design language they got used to at a certain age was the obviously superior choice for all ages.
I think the biggest issue of modern UI design is that a lot of the software with it is poisoned by metric-chasing and mass data collection that megacorps love. But on a deeper level, most modern UX designers are vastly better than the average person working on UIs in the 90s. All the horrendous stuff from the 90s got forgotten, leaving behind only the fond memories of Windows 9x and similar.
I'm much younger than you, and I get liking the 9x design only in the sense that this was the last time when MS did a clean-slate design and redesigned everything in the system to be consistent, as opposed to them juggling like 6 different design languages for the sake of backwards compatibility and their apparent fear of not making something new. But as a design.. well, "all components must be the exact same shade of grey, look identical and have as little hierarchy as possible" isn't the peak of design, imo.
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#343I’m glad someone was able to get a bonus or promotion out of this, but in the just another symptom of google losing it’s soul as a “hard problems” engineering shop.
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#344Oh my god, this is ugly as fuck. It reminds me a study about the perception of beauty among students of arts. Before they start their studies, their perception of beauty is similar to everyone's. But as they go through their course, their perception starts to shift. What they see as "beautiful" doesn't match the perception of others. They learn what "skeuomorphism" is, and suddenly everything must be flat and undiffe…
I agree, this looks like designers showing off to other designers. It looks suspiciously similar to Dropbox's 2017 design system that thankfully never became mainstream -- https://www.awwwards.com/inspiration/dropbox-design-system
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#345> Expressive design makes you feel something. It inspires emotion, communicates function, and helps users achieve their goals. I sometimes wonder if the people writing this sort of thing really believe what they're writing? Their case study is mostly just "make buttons that people use a lot stand out". Oh wow! Such emotion! Much feels!
Especially since it feels so bland and "corpo safe" - the only thing I have feelings about is selling this as expressive :D
It doesn't look bland to me at all. Most of the examples look like a failed Linux rice.
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#346Is Material Web still in "maintenance mode" i.e. dead? https://github.com/material-components/material-web/discussi... So Material Design is Android only, yes?
mui.com is still around and IMO way better than this crap
TBH I don't immediately hate what they've done design-wise.
I just wish they'd support it properly...
My current work project is using the M2 iteration, I guess to have a consistent look and feel across web + Android apps.
But the closest thing to an officially supported MD component lib for web now is Angular-Material. That has some M3 support I believe.
But not useful if you don't use Angular. And notable that the "web" pages for MD point to the incomplete and not updated Web Components project instead.
It's like this massive and massively profitable company laid off the... I dunno it must only be like 1-3 people? ...who were producing this useful thing. I don't understand the reasoning.
FWIW on the 3rd party side https://www.beercss.com/ looks to be carrying the flag quite nicely (I haven't used it yet).
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#347These subtle animations while reading the text make me dizzy. What are they animating the text for?
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#348> Expressive design makes you feel something. It inspires emotion, communicates function, and helps users achieve their goals. I sometimes wonder if the people writing this sort of thing really believe what they're writing? Their case study is mostly just "make buttons that people use a lot stand out". Oh wow! Such emotion! Much feels!
Depends on how deep you want the belief to be, but a lot of people will hold weird beliefs. I've seen colleagues express so much pride, joy and pleasure for things that I consider bogus at best (and totally detrimental if I'm being harsh), so I wouldn't be surprised people who live in UX land to be in that kind of bubble. The worst part to me .. is the blend of cutesy-butterfly projects with "scientific study" practi…
As a UX designer, I assure you there are still some of us that are cynical about all this BS.
In my experience, the one thing that people care about feeling when using some GUI is that they are on the right track and are closer to accomplishing whatever task they are performing.
I’ll say this though, the UX designers who speak in flowery bullshit like that tend to get noticed more and climb the career ladder, because it’s what everyone wants to hear. It’s this kind of stuff that made disillusioned me and made me hate the work.
I think some really do believe it, and I think others will just say whatever they think someone wants to hear.
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#349Earlier quoted context omitted.
[Ticket Closed] resolution: user should buy a macbook pro with at least the M3 processor /s
The web pages are working properly on my 5-6 year old laptop running Ubuntu and Chrome. Maybe it doesn't work in Safari or on Macs?
It's working perfectly fine on my m1 Mac + firefox.
My comment was a joke
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#350How did these clowns manage to make my mouse cursor laggy? It is incomprehensible for me to live in such a big bubble with such a big paycheck and then spend zero brainpower on systems without graphics acceleration. This is extremely bad engineering and these engineers should be called out for it. It takes a special kind of person to deliver this and be proud of it. Once they made their millions at Google these engin…
If you try to move the mouse while scrolling the cursor freezes... jfc bring back 2010's Google.