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My quest to make motorcycle riding that tad bit safer

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Re: My quest to make motorcycle riding that tad bit safer

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https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/noise-camera-tech... The UK is trialling noise pollution cameras that mail fines to your home, same as for speeding. It's an externality whose days are numbered.

Sickening use of tech. Living in a true surveillance state

Satire?

Re: My quest to make motorcycle riding that tad bit safer

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Brake lights should be activated whenever the vehicle is significantly slowing down regardless of whether the brakes are being used or not. And this should be standard across _all_ vehicles, not just motorcycles. I would say brakes should also override any automated method too, just in case of malfunction.

This is just (I am not trying to trivialise the incredible amount of effort required to take a hardware project, even a simple one, to market) an LIS3DH wired to some brake lights. Every single road-vehicle could easily have this technology.

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You'd only see it on newer bikes with ABS, they seem likely to have more sensors and "electronics" in the brake system. In that kind of system the deceleration could be inferred from existing speed signals. I wouldn't be surprised if ABS systems already estimate the engine braking torque directly.

What is the general consensus on ABS braking in motorcycles? Really curious to hear from anyone who has rode a bike equipped with it. For some reason the idea of a bike interfering with brake controls seems like it could feel unsafe if the system isn't designed really well. Extremely low margin for error when it comes to braking on a 2 wheel vehicle especially in suboptimal conditions. I could see ABS braking being f…

Don't know about general consensus, but I'm a big fan. I've had an emergency stop (deer ran out into the road) on a bike not equipped with it, and turns out that in an emergency I will just jam on the brakes and lock the wheels. Luckily I was going straight, and the bike stayed upright.

Re: My quest to make motorcycle riding that tad bit safer

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Sickening use of tech. Living in a true surveillance state

Easy to say when you don't live next to a road frequented by drivers with ridiculous modified exhausts.

MOTs already have a decibel limit. I don't understand how these vehicles can be road worthy considering how loud they are.

This technology feels like an engineers solution to a trivial legal issue.

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I regularly ride both bikes and motorbikes and this never has been a problem, even though the lever that is the rear brake on the bike is the front brake on the motorcycle.

> even though the lever that is the rear brake on the bike is the front brake on the motorcycle Then your bicycles brakes have been put back on the wrong sides (is home maintenance by a previous owner to blame?). The front brake should _always_ be on the right. Just like a motorbike. EDIT: Correction. It appears US and UK bicycles have their brakes on opposite sides. How bizarre!

In the UK, British standard cycle brakes also have the front brake on the right. I think bike brakes being swapped is only a continental Europe thing.

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Motorcycle fatality rates have been trending upwards, not downwards[1]. Brake lights on helmets may illuminate one of the culprits: An ever increasing number of American trucks with poor visibility. Sitting on a bike, you're even shorter than a pedestrian and more likely to be completely out of sight. Perhaps its time to start regulating for better visibility, as Europe has done. [1] https://www.iii.org/fact-statisti…

> Perhaps its time to start regulating for better visibility I argue we should start with the A-pillar. It's not just the big fat American trucks. Every car that is allowed to roll onto the streets is required to have a certain amount of airbag and the push for this seems to have really bad side effects on aspects of safety for everyone not inside the vehicle. Look at the visibility difference in a 1980s pickup truck…

> Perhaps its time to start regulating for better visibility

I wish my town in NY would ENFORCE laws for tinted windows. It’s epidemic. As a moto rider I rely on being able to see the driver, because if you can’t see their face, they can’t see you.

Of course you can’t see the driver’s face if their car windows are blacked out.

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Can you explain why? I see other people saying the same thing, but it totally defies my intuition. Isn't the seat in an SUV objectively much higher up than the seat of a bike? Aren't your feet much higher on the floor of an SUV, than on a bike? What am I missing here?

They are not. You step up over the sill to get into an SUV, then your feet go down into the footwell. Your eyes end up slightly lower than a person standing (and much lower in a sedan), while a motorcycle is very close to exactly standing (they have to be able to put their feet down when stopped).

Thank you!

Re: My quest to make motorcycle riding that tad bit safer

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Engine braking with an internal combustion engine generates a vacuum in the intake manifold, because the throttle is closed while the pistons suck air. (Performance cars sometimes have vacuum gauges to measure this. Aftermarket ones can be installed.) A brake light could be rigged to activate past a certain a vacuum threshold. (There would be some false positives that are possibly not worth caring about.) For all the…

It's an interesting idea.

When talking about triggering over a certain threshold before the clutch is engaged, I'm guessing you mean detecting the hand throttle being let go particularly quickly after a downshift blip? I don't have any real evidence for this, but based on how I think I use the throttle when riding, I feel like this would have a very high false positive rate unless you're deliberately using the throttle very gently in normal riding; or a high false negative rate if you tune it so it only activates on really aggressive throttle blips. It would probably be more reliable to just trigger off high vacuum once the clutch has engaged.

Also, I'm not 100% sure but I don't think my bike has any vacuum tubing you could tap into - it doesn't have a vacuum brake servo like a car. So you'd have to drill into the intake manifold to mount a sensor.

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I live in a mountainous area that attracts huge amount of motorcyclists on weekends. Most of the fatal accidents I recall in the last years (usually around a dozen per year) were caused by right of way violations by cars, by excessive speeding of the cyclists, or by risky overtakes. I am not sure how a brake light would help there. Also, serious off-topic question to the motorcycle enthusiasts here: how do you cope w…

They simply don't care for the second part. Some even consider it a safety feature (to be known well in advance) and modify exhausts to be louder accordingly. The amount of time me or our kids were woken up by some ferrari, maserati, chopper et al flooring it on purpose on nearby intersection past midnight has been many, punishment 0 nothing. After moving to rural countryside its one of many aspects I am certainly no…

If you don’t mind me asking, what area of the world did you move from and to? What was the experience like, in general?

Moving from cramped suburbia to a few acres in the mountains/countryside is a dream of mine these days

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I live in a mountainous area that attracts huge amount of motorcyclists on weekends. Most of the fatal accidents I recall in the last years (usually around a dozen per year) were caused by right of way violations by cars, by excessive speeding of the cyclists, or by risky overtakes. I am not sure how a brake light would help there. Also, serious off-topic question to the motorcycle enthusiasts here: how do you cope w…

> Also, serious off-topic question to the motorcycle enthusiasts here: how do you cope with the fact that your weekend leisure ride is often a massive noise disturbance for hundreds of people and animals? Could say the same for cars, which contribute to more noise pollution.

Yep. It’s weird to call out motorcycles when typically any good mountain roads frequented by motorcyclists are more commonly used by cars. Especially at night when any noise would be most disturbing. Motorcyclists don’t typically ride very fast on dark mountain roads at night (headlights on motorcycles barely illuminate anything) but auto enthusiasts certainly will.

I’ve had both “loud” bikes and cars (all legal - stock, in fact). The cars easily have 10x the mileage.

The one thing I’d say is - you can’t really control sound of the external world. Cities are infinitely louder. I live in nyc right now and live off a major avenue near the Lincoln tunnel. Whatever annoyances people here have with loud bikes, trust me - my noise is 1000x worse on a daily level. Yet, I’m not perturbed by it unless I open the window cause I chose a place that used quality windows and insulation.

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