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That's straight up traitorous. DOGE needs to be shutdown and everyone of them held as a flight risk while the whole thing is investigated.
They work for Trump so they'll never be held to account, even if a Democrat wins the next election (assuming even have one and it's fair and free) I never thought I'd be calling for UN observers for an election in the US but here we are
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Maybe not everyone involved is quite the genius you might've been expecting.
Occam’s razor would also suggest a hoax as one of several very credible possibilities.
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> Setting aside legitimate (thats a matter of judgement) By definition, a judge decides what's legitimate. If DOGE expects their access to be blocked by a court judgement, and bum-rushes agencies to exfiltrate data ahead of the judgement, that's also criminal intent. I am not sure what you are getting at. "Covert" isn't how I'd describe DOGE's actions. "Brazen" maybe?
People have admitted in news interviews to destroying government data to prevent others from knowing what the government was doing. That’s likely criminal. This is a legitimate reason to get at information before people who might destroy have the opportunity. What’s happening with judges is very political. We likely won’t know what’s allowed until things have gone through the appeals process. There have been cases of…
What exactly did they say and who said it?
Someone needs to go to prison over this. It’s not just a misunderstanding, it is an intentional attack on every US citizen.
The CEO of Tesla and Space-X; a self-proclaimed high IQ individual, an alleged programmer, has apparently hired a straight-up script kiddie to their elite delta force of technical government downsizers.
Um, as best I can tell from similar articles, they're all script kiddies.
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Trump can wait until the last day in office then issue pardons for any possible crimes, right? Biden did something similar I believe
Can't pardon state crimes nor cases of impeachment. Arguably, if you impeach someone in public office, even if they aren't convicted by the Senate, any pardon of those same acts becomes moot and they can be tried in court for the same offenses. At least, that's what the DoJ suggested in 2000.
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Sometimes getting caught isn’t a bad thing. If you are trying to seed division between to groups, acting in a way that divides them - e.g., getting caught helping one side - is more effective than what you gain by not getting caught. I struggle to see what Russia would gain with nlrb data, but getting caught “helping doge” furthers distrust between the two sides of our country - which is something they gain from
Why would the Russians do this when Trump won the election. Isn't that the best outcome for them related to Ukraine? >furthers distrust between the two sides of our country - which is something they gain from How?
Yeah Trump winning seems to help them in Ukraine but their need is disruption as much as different policy in the longer term.
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Can't pardon state crimes nor cases of impeachment. Arguably, if you impeach someone in public office, even if they aren't convicted by the Senate, any pardon of those same acts becomes moot and they can be tried in court for the same offenses. At least, that's what the DoJ suggested in 2000.
This Congress won't impeach Trump. If they were willing to, they would've already.
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> Setting aside legitimate (thats a matter of judgement) By definition, a judge decides what's legitimate. If DOGE expects their access to be blocked by a court judgement, and bum-rushes agencies to exfiltrate data ahead of the judgement, that's also criminal intent. I am not sure what you are getting at. "Covert" isn't how I'd describe DOGE's actions. "Brazen" maybe?
People have admitted in news interviews to destroying government data to prevent others from knowing what the government was doing. That’s likely criminal. This is a legitimate reason to get at information before people who might destroy have the opportunity. What’s happening with judges is very political. We likely won’t know what’s allowed until things have gone through the appeals process. There have been cases of…
What is very political about it?
Since appeals are also decided by judges why is that a better system?