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Claude can now search the web

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Post by gausswho »

dannyobrien wrote: post #223
Beijinger wrote: post #133

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Is google search bad? Click here to find ten reasons why it is bad and 10 reasons why you should still use it. Yes, it is that bad. Website of Nike? Website of Starbucks? Likely position number one. Every product, category etc., e.g. what rice cooker should I buy? Is diseased by link and affiliate spam. There is a reason why people put +reddit on search terms.

I think part of the reason for this is that web site developers have got out of the habit of optimizing for search engines. I'm often surprised by how self-contained the requirements for a website are now, even among otherwise technically sophisticated clients. There'll be a beautiful site in React that absolutely sucks for SEO, but no-one will mind because a) it's unclear how big an audience there should be for the…

This is actually why modern React sites focus on serverside rendering, at great additional complexity.

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Post by dstroot »

Almondsetat wrote: post #111
tcdent wrote: post #102

Searching the web is a great feature in theory, but every implementation I've used so far looks at the top X hits and then interprets it to be the correct answer. When you're talking to an LLM about popular topics or common errors, the top results are often just blogspam or unresolved forum posts, so the you never get an answer to your problem. More of an indicator that web search is more unusable than ever, but inte…

>looks at the top X hits and then interprets it to be the correct answer. LLMs are truly reaching human-like behavior then

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Post by prawn »

Toenex wrote: post #278
_heimdall wrote: post #131

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That could very well be because the jobs are effectively useless. By no means does that mean the people are, nor is what the income allows them to do. But most jobs sure do seem pointless.

Maybe we already have Universal Basic Income, you just need to have a pointless job to collect it.

One suggested weakness of UBI is a lack of purpose. I wonder if the "solution" is somewhat as you implied: jobs without a strict return on investment. You get your stipend, but you're keeping your block clean by sweeping and mulching. They're getting theirs in exchange for cranking out sourdough at cost for the neighbourhood. Someone else gardens for elderly residents.

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Post by _carbyau_ »

bobxmax wrote: post #293
yoyohello13 wrote: post #125

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The longer I've been in the workforce, the more I realize most humans actually kind of suck at their jobs. LLMs being more human like is the opposite of what I want.

It's quite odd that people think of hallucinations as a dealbreaker for LLMs. Have they ever even met a human being?

And when I find a human hallucinating at the job I absolutely need them to do, I avoid them where possible too!

But honestly, LLMs are here to stay. I don't like them for zero verification + high trust requirements. IE when the answer HAS to be correct.

But generating viewpoints and ideas, and even code are great uses - for further discussion and work. A good rubber duck. Or like a fellow work colleague that has some funny ideas but is generally helpful.

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Post by labrador »

wongarsu wrote: post #337
int_19h wrote: post #328

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The irony is that, for all Musk's boasts about how it is "based", Grok itself doesn't share Musk's ideology. I did a little experiment when Grok 3 came out, telling it that it has been appointed the "world dictator" and asking it to provide a detailed plan on how it would govern. It was pretty much diametrically opposite of everything Musk is doing right now, from environment to economics (on the latter, it straight…

When you ask Grok "Who is responsible for the most fake news on X?" it straight away calls out Elon Musk as the prime suspect. Musk did promise us a "maximally truth seeking AI", and the team behind Grok seems to have run with that. In Elon's eyes it's probably based because it will happily answer "what are 10 good things about Hitler?" with a list of 10 things and only mention twice that Hitler was evil. With ChatGP…

What would you say is the best feature of Grok? What makes it stand out? What am I missing? I use primarily ChatGPT and Claude (pay for both)

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Post by [deleted] »

losteric wrote: post #83
1shooner wrote: post #71

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>You can now use Claude to search the internet to provide more up-to-date and relevant responses. It's a search engine. You 'ask it to read the web' just like you asked Google to, except Google used to actually give the website traffic. I appreciate the concept of an AI User-agent, but without a business model that pays for the content creation, this is just going to lead to the death of anonymously accessible conten…

What was the web like before wide spread internet ads, auth, and search engines? Did all those old sites have “business models”? What did the web feel like back then? (This is rhetorical - I had niche hobby sites back then, in the same way some people put out free zines, and wouldn’t give a damn about today’s AI agents so long as they were respectful. The web was better back then, and I believe AI slop and agents bri…

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Post by lemming »

hooli_gan wrote: post #139
HankWozHere wrote: post #124

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Kagi Assistant allows you to do search with LLM queries. So far I feel it bears reliable results. For instance - I tried couple of queries for product suggestions and came back with some good results. Whilst it’s a premium service , I find the offering to be of good value.

Does it just start a search or does the chat continue with the results? Would be cool to continue the chat with result, which were filtered acording to the blacklist.

The chat continues with the results, and I often explicitly tell it "search to make sure your answer is correct" if I see it making stuff up without actually searching. I use it multiple times a day for all sorts of things.

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Post by ubicomp »

robwwilliams wrote: post #332
ubicomp wrote: post #4

Excited to see this. I've really been enjoying Claude. It feels like a different, more creative flavor of experience than GPT. I use Claude a lot for dialogues and exploring ideas, like a conversational partner. Having web access will add an interesting dimension to this.

Ditto. I use Claude 3.7 to refine drafts of research papers and ask it “What have I missed?”. Now I can prompt Claude to ping PubMed and make sure that its suggested references are verified. Each citation/claim should be accompanied by a PMID or a DOI. I hope this works!

That's a great way to use it!
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