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Material Theme has been pulled from VS Code's marketplace

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Re: Material Theme has been pulled from VS Code's marketplace

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Post by homebrewer »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #223
oefrha wrote: post #100

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Asking for money isn’t a problem. The problem is this person went out of their way to extract money by harassing people who rightfully use the open source Apache 2 version, switching the marketplace extension to a closed source version with obfuscated code (likely malicious according to MS), and possibly more, all this for doing a quite small amount of work. That’s after already raising $7.6k, apparently.

Making a theme is not minimal effort which is why 99.9999% of everyone uses preexisting themes rather than making their own. LoC is a red herring. And the fact that thousands of people decided to introduce his LoC as a dependency in their local development environment makes the point. I'm surprised to see supposed software engineers get this wrong. We tend to dismiss look&feel type things as low effort which is funny…

Almost all of the work has already been done by other people for other text editors. Porting a theme requires copying files from another project and writing a tiny bit of glue around it. The author of a niche terminal emulator I'm using on small systems was able to add around a hundred themes this way in a short amount of time. Sadly, he wasn't able to raise $7.6k×100 for all that thankless work.

Re: Material Theme has been pulled from VS Code's marketplace

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Post by joquarky »

Waterluvian wrote: post #43
Krutonium wrote: post #38

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Yep - Give them a Pantone Color and a Material, and they can tell you how to get that material in that exact color.

I dunno. I asked for the Pantone of neon brown on transparent aluminum and they stopped returning my calls.

Neon brown is orange :)

Re: Material Theme has been pulled from VS Code's marketplace

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Post by mindcrash »

nkmnz wrote: post #334
homebrewer wrote: post #330

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Yet Mozilla, for all the flak it gets, isn't paid a dime by its users, but does find resources to vet the most popular extensions. Everything I use is checked by them. Raymond Hill (of ublock fame) wasn't really impressed with how it is performed, but it's still much better than nothing (which is what MS apparently does). VSCode is an IDE in name only, it's a glorified text editor, and pretty mediocre one at that. I…

What functionality or property makes JetBrains' products an IDE while VSCode isn't? Honest question, I've never used any of their products.

As a example: Rider (https://www.jetbrains.com/rider/) - a IDE - comes with everything you could possibly need to build and compile .NET apps out of the box, while VSCode - a code editor - relies on extensions (and thus mostly the community surrounding VSCode) for this.

Or to make things more succinct:

* VSCode is a extendable code editor (like vim, neovim, Zed and Sublime)

* Jetbrains Rider is a fully equipped Integrated Development Environment (like Microsoft Visual Studio or its direct sibling Jetbrains IntelliJ IDEA)

And while extensions are optional within a IDE (and often solely used for increased productivity), more often than not they are a necessity in a code editor to even become productive.

Re: Material Theme has been pulled from VS Code's marketplace

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Post by skydhash »

diggan wrote: post #185
skydhash wrote: post #176

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I don’t remmener the exact steps, but it was fairly easy. You just need a mac (which you can borrow) and an audio editor. But that’s been a few years as I’ve been using the same one for a while now.

> You just need a mac (which you can borrow) Yeah, so only-iPhone users are out of luck since the majority of people don't have a Mac. Last time I used Android you needed the file and the phone itself, you select the audio file and you're done.

Maybe you can use iTunes on Windows? I haven't use the latter in a long time, but IIRC, it was just adding the file and syncing it to the iPhone.

Re: Material Theme has been pulled from VS Code's marketplace

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Post by adamc »

iLemming wrote: post #289
adamc wrote: post #261

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Well, I used Emacs for 15-20 years. It has problems of its own -- mostly that it is effectively locked into an antediluvian view of how editors work, and that to use it effectively you end up maintaining large and complex configuration files. I still use it for some things, but what we really need is a new, different edition of Emacs that has the same basic architecture but a more modern take on all the stuff that da…

It's not "a problem," it's a difference in philosophy. Sure, VSCode comes accessible out of the box with minimal configuration needed and a GUI-first settings interface. But that comes with its own price - your config is more restricted in what you can do and fragmented across json files, settings menus, and extension options. In contrast, with Emacs I can change any behavior of any function and command - built-in or…

Yeah, I'm not wrong. Its terminology is antique.

As for the rest, been there and done that, but then you have to invest in your knowledge of Elisp, which has zero other benefits.

Re: Material Theme has been pulled from VS Code's marketplace

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Post by ukFxqnLa2sBSBf6 »

Apfel wrote: post #120
ukFxqnLa2sBSBf6 wrote: post #119

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[flagged]

He's being as helpful as possible, there's no need to go hard on his language like this.

I don’t think went that hard though? I was just pointing out the discrepancy between what they said and what they mean. Not everyone might know that the marketplace doesn’t need you permission to remove your extensions.

Re: Material Theme has been pulled from VS Code's marketplace

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Post by lolinder »

mindcrash wrote: post #343
nkmnz wrote: post #334

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What functionality or property makes JetBrains' products an IDE while VSCode isn't? Honest question, I've never used any of their products.

As a example: Rider ( https://www.jetbrains.com/rider/ ) - a IDE - comes with everything you could possibly need to build and compile .NET apps out of the box, while VSCode - a code editor - relies on extensions (and thus mostly the community surrounding VSCode) for this. Or to make things more succinct: * VSCode is a extendable code editor (like vim, neovim, Zed and Sublime) * Jetbrains Rider is a fully equipped Int…

I'm a big JetBrains fan, but this distinction is just silly. If you look at the way that JetBrains IDEs are packaged, the differences between IDEs all come down to extensions—which are enabled by default, which are available to install at all. IntelliJ Ultimate can be made to have all the features of PyCharm with the right extension combo. And occasionally they break out a new IDE by taking an extension and making it no longer available for installation elsewhere (like RustRover). The entire architecture is one of plugins.

"Integrated" isn't meant to contrast with a plugin-based system (otherwise JetBrains wouldn't count!), it's meant to contrast with a dev environment built out of a bunch of individual tools and terminal commands run separately.

Re: Material Theme has been pulled from VS Code's marketplace

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Post by CodeWriter23 »

homebrewer wrote: post #330
rat9988 wrote: post #325

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The marketplace isn't operated on a paid contract for vetted extensions. You vet the extensions you use. Most don't, and it's ok. Don't shift the blame and the cost on microsoft though, they don't have to offer it.

Yet Mozilla, for all the flak it gets, isn't paid a dime by its users, but does find resources to vet the most popular extensions. Everything I use is checked by them. Raymond Hill (of ublock fame) wasn't really impressed with how it is performed, but it's still much better than nothing (which is what MS apparently does). VSCode is an IDE in name only, it's a glorified text editor, and pretty mediocre one at that. I…

Apples to oranges or should I say Advertising Revenue vs. Freemium Revenue models

Re: Material Theme has been pulled from VS Code's marketplace

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Post by forgotpwd16 »

homebrewer wrote: post #330
rat9988 wrote: post #325

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The marketplace isn't operated on a paid contract for vetted extensions. You vet the extensions you use. Most don't, and it's ok. Don't shift the blame and the cost on microsoft though, they don't have to offer it.

Yet Mozilla, for all the flak it gets, isn't paid a dime by its users, but does find resources to vet the most popular extensions. Everything I use is checked by them. Raymond Hill (of ublock fame) wasn't really impressed with how it is performed, but it's still much better than nothing (which is what MS apparently does). VSCode is an IDE in name only, it's a glorified text editor, and pretty mediocre one at that. I…

>Everything I use is checked by them.

How you know that?

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