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A Year of Telepathy

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Post by oefnak »

sangnoir wrote: post #316
zensavona wrote: post #57

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Being concerned about animal testing seems pretty silly coming from people who likely eat pigs, sheep and other intelligent animals every day, who likely lived in just as bad conditions if not worse their whole lives leading up to them becoming food. I also eat meat, it just seems a bit ironic to me.

> Being concerned about animal testing seems pretty silly coming from people who likely eat pigs This is reductive and lacking any form of nuance. If I eat chicken, should I automatically be okay with heavily industrialized chicken farms, or even setting chickens alight for entertainment? Just because one evolved to be an omnivore doesn't mean one is okay with all forms of killing animals.

Yes. You are absolutely responsible for killing animals if you eat meat.

Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by oefnak »

steve_adams_86 wrote: post #273
ralfd wrote: post #165

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I don’t agree with you at all. I’m not sure if you’re serious. In any case, a hypocrite can tell the truth. Someone eating a drumstick from KFC will still be correct if they claim that the system which got their chicken to them is an engine of murder and suffering, and it should stop.

It is also a matter of scale. Billions of animals are killed after living terrible lives, for single use (consumption). Thousands of animals are (horribly) killed for the long term (science).

Which should we focus on first?

Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by aziaziazi »

fliglr wrote: post #234
discordance wrote: post #56

Between 2018 and 2022 "the company has tested on and killed at least 1,500 animals — over 280 sheep, pigs, and monkeys, as well as mice and rats." [0] 0: https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2022/12/11/23500157/neura...

Who cares. Do you want them to test on humans?

Don’t you? They’ll need to do it sooner or later. The sooner - the less unwilling cobaye used.

Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by KaiserPro »

dennis_jeeves2 wrote: post #289
KaiserPro wrote: post #239

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> I'd say he slipped if he did do it I mean yeah, but he did it more than once, and it wasn't like it was an odd sort of wave, it was a full on parade standard Hitlergruß (thumpy on the chest hand out at the ascribed hitler angle). Which he then repeated to the audience in the front and the people behind him. Monty python use to do it all the time, as did a number of other comedies. but the important distinction is t…

I have to admit, if I had all the power in the world I'd be openly offending various groups. Although in bad taste, it serves as a test to weed out petty people. Further I'd be offering those groups a clean exit to from their own 'offenseless' society. Now coming to the democracy thing - I'm not sure it's the best form of governance as is commonly understood, so I personally don't value it. I don't imply that the opp…

> reached that stage of no wanting the approval of those easily offended people.

He craves approval, the people that he crave it from are just as easily offended as anyone else.

Can you imagine the death threats if he pulled out a pride flag, or said he loved his transgendered kid?

Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by dennis_jeeves2 »

KaiserPro wrote: post #344
dennis_jeeves2 wrote: post #289

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I have to admit, if I had all the power in the world I'd be openly offending various groups. Although in bad taste, it serves as a test to weed out petty people. Further I'd be offering those groups a clean exit to from their own 'offenseless' society. Now coming to the democracy thing - I'm not sure it's the best form of governance as is commonly understood, so I personally don't value it. I don't imply that the opp…

> reached that stage of no wanting the approval of those easily offended people. He craves approval, the people that he crave it from are just as easily offended as anyone else. Can you imagine the death threats if he pulled out a pride flag, or said he loved his transgendered kid?

>> reached that stage of no wanting the approval of those easily offended people.

>He craves approval, the people that he crave it from are just as easily offended as anyone else.

I would not make that assumption unless I knew him personally.

Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by phillipcarter »

try_the_bass wrote: post #331
zwirbl wrote: post #121

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The 'awkward gesture' take is a fun one. "Sorry officer, I did not flip you off twice, that were both just very awkward gestures" There is tons of data on how Musk became a far right supporter and sympathizer, like his support of UK racists and the German far right. You seem to still use X, you could just scroll through his posts there and try to not ignore the evidence you see with your own eyes

Have you considered that perhaps the increasing levels of vitriol and outright hatred directed at him by the left might have had something to do with his rightward trend? They seem pretty correlated. I struggle to see how doubling down on the hatred is going to convince anyone other than _already hateful_ people of the righteousness of your cause?

Have you considered that doing a nazi salute, whether earnest or ironically earnest, is just not okay?

Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by craftsman »

simianparrot wrote: post #235
goatlover wrote: post #215

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Why should we trust DOGE to get it right? They're not elected, and Elon has serious conflicts of interest with his business ventures.

They're appointed by your president to do the job. What do you mean, "not elected"?

They are unelected in exactly the same way that anyone appointed by the President--namely the entire Executive Branch--is unelected.

Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by esbranson »

UFO abductees report telepathy regularly, as the default mode. UFO witnesses often report they "feel" something odd, that the UFO somehow "sees" them. And pretty much every story is both the same and extremely odd. There have been claims by those in the field implicating an "over-connection of neurons between the head of the caudate and the putamen".

Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by sangnoir »

oefnak wrote: post #341
sangnoir wrote: post #316

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> Being concerned about animal testing seems pretty silly coming from people who likely eat pigs This is reductive and lacking any form of nuance. If I eat chicken, should I automatically be okay with heavily industrialized chicken farms, or even setting chickens alight for entertainment? Just because one evolved to be an omnivore doesn't mean one is okay with all forms of killing animals.

Yes. You are absolutely responsible for killing animals if you eat meat.

Decision-making must be easy when you see the world in black and white. From where I stand, not all killings are equal.

Re: A Year of Telepathy

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Post by Juliate »

andsoitis wrote: post #65
sussmannbaka wrote: post #52

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The same disabled people whose hard earned rights are on the chopping block right now in the name of anti wokeness? I’ll say, taking away their ability to participate in society first, then selling it back to the richest of them is an ingenious business approach.

> taking away their ability to participate in society first, then selling it back to the richest of them is an ingenious business approach. That's not what is happening here. These tools (Neuralink and others) enable people who are disabled to participate more in society.

For one, they enable, yes. So there's a market to create here.

But. It also doesn't take a lot of imagination to see what other beneficial uses they promise to bear, as a general device. Imagine having a computer plugged-in permanently in your brain. Both in reading (and reacting by providing a stimulus, whatever it is, however you may do so directly or indirectly), and perhaps even, some day, in writing.

When you see what you can achieve with an individual, customised touch-screen computer in the pocket, something that didn't even exist a quarter of a century ago. The potential. The horizon. How would you not invest in that vision if you had the money for it?

What a striking coincidence that the man behind this project has now access to the resources of a huge country, which administration happens to deport "illegal" immigrants here and there, without due judiciary process (that is, publicly documented), in territories outside of judiciary overview (like Guantanamo).

The same guy who felt brazen enough to make twice a nazi salute in front of televisions.

Far fetched scenario? Yes, obviously. Improbable? Also yes. Impossible? No.

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