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Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Disease outbreaks have a tendency to not… stay local.

I’m sure the geniuses at the neighboring health authorities are perfectly capable of monitoring nearby conditions without falling back on federal intervention.

So each state should have an healthcare embassy to coordinate with the other 49 states? Collecting the same data, but 50x?

Maybe we can call them the “Duplicate Centers for Disease Control”. Sure sounds efficient.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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> She noted that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention started monitoring and reporting tuberculosis cases in the U.S. in the 1950s.

Ok, we've put the CDC up there instead. Thanks! Edit: actually let's put the 1950s up there instead. I think there's more information that way.

Appreciate it, thanks.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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It’s a valid question, but I don’t think the current vaccine-unfriendly climate in the US is the reason why the BCG vaccine wasn’t mentioned. BCG wasn’t routinely given in the US even in the last half of the 20th century when vaccines were universally popular. I was surprised to learn a TB vaccine even existed when I started a public health−adjacent job in the 2000s. Our public health establishment just isn’t convinc…

The BCG vaccine does exist, but it's an 90 year old live-virus vaccine with short-term side effects. Because it's a live-virus "natural" vaccine, it can't be used on people who are immunocompromised or have HIV. There's work on more modern vaccines.[1] No big successes yet. The safety record of the BCG vaccine, in terms of permanent harm, is pretty good. But a normal side effect is "The usual expected reaction to BCG…

> the COVID vaccines, which are pure RNA

This is misleading. Vaccines, including those for covid, generally include adjuvants to stimulate the immune system [1]. While I understand the point your making here, the covid vaccines were not syringes with pure RNA in them.

[1] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10222622/

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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I’m sure the geniuses at the neighboring health authorities are perfectly capable of monitoring nearby conditions without falling back on federal intervention.

So each state should have an healthcare embassy to coordinate with the other 49 states? Collecting the same data, but 50x? Maybe we can call them the “Duplicate Centers for Disease Control”. Sure sounds efficient.

You’re missing that these centers already exist.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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>Treating it casually has led to widespread resistance. I have long suspected this as part of why the subject isn't much discussed, despite being more prevalent than most realize. The elephant here is (aside from latent infection) the atypically long duration of treatment, which can exceed 6 months and is harsh. Many, even otherwise responsible people, will founder before the proper end of treatment and this, I think…

What kind of natural treatments? Because tuberculosis has been a massive problem from the start of human civilization up until the advent of antibiotics, and they tried every natural medicine and treatment under the sun because of how long people can end up living with it before dieing, and they accomplished pretty much nothing in stopping it. In fact it continued to get worse throughout that entire time, at one poin…

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Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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… Do you think President is the only thing on the ballot? Do you think that maybe, if everyone voted, the demographics might be different? I’m so tired of this nonsense. If y’all bothered showing up for state and local races, you could even change elections in your state. But that would like, take effort, so I get why you’d rather shitpost about how worthless it all is.

We were talking about the presidential election.

Ah, so by “not voting” you meant “leaving one box blank while already filling out the rest of the ballot because what’s the point of wasting the ink”?

Sorry, that reads, to me, like post hoc justification for nonsense. The only people who talk about voting not mattering are people who don’t vote - not people who skip one or two boxes on the form. Maybe you’re different.

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Is Trump responsible for the executive orders he signs? Is he responsible for the consequences of those actions? Or is does he never make a mistake, never cause problems, never harm the people he says he's ready to mess with?

he's not responsible for an outbreak of a contagious illness. if he had been president 3 weeks ago the LA fire would have been linked to him. thats how it was for 4 years. then one day, nothing was the president's fault anymore. Nobody beleives that.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Or you can be an adult and vote for the best option. Harris and the Democratic establishment are certainly not saints and I could rant for hours at how bad they are, but she was a competent woman and at least tried to float solutions to our problems as opposed to being a party of billionaires who is happy to burn it all down.

True, she was a party of billionaires that want to burn it all down more slowly. GOP-lite, as they say.

The economies under Clinton, Obama, and Biden suggest otherwise. But why bother sticking to reality.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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The BCG vaccine does exist, but it's an 90 year old live-virus vaccine with short-term side effects. Because it's a live-virus "natural" vaccine, it can't be used on people who are immunocompromised or have HIV. There's work on more modern vaccines.[1] No big successes yet. The safety record of the BCG vaccine, in terms of permanent harm, is pretty good. But a normal side effect is "The usual expected reaction to BCG…

Yeah, when it’s dress/tank top weather, you can see what part of the world people grew up in by the upper-left-arm scar. [ https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/tuberculosis/Pages/... ]

My upper left arm scar wasn't made by TB vaccine though, it was Rubella vaccine. I didn't associate it with aftereffects of the vaccine itself, it was the unique method of delivery - an airgun instead of a needle. Never seen that before or since.
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