Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Operator research preview

openai.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

341–350 of 448 posts

Re: Operator research preview

#341

Post by semi-extrinsic »

darioush wrote: post #35
easterncalculus wrote: post #22

From the slide deck on the livestream: "[Operator safety risks and mitigations] Harmful tasks: User is misaligned" Looking forward to seeing some more of the examples for when openai considers their users as "misaligned", whatever that actually even means anymore.

As the storyline unfolds "AI" seems to be code for "machine learning based censorship". Soon we will have home appliances and vehicles telling you about how aligned you are, and whether you need to improve your alignment score before you can open your fridge. It is only a matter of time before this will apply to your financial transactions as well.

What do you mean soon? A friend of mine has a 5 year old Tesla, where you make profiles in the car to store your seat position preferences and other settings. At some point, this guy has done something that he's not sure of, which pissed of some algorithm and banned his profile from using some features. So now he had to make a second profile with a random name so he can drive his car again.

Re: Operator research preview

#342

Post by agnishom »

karpathy wrote: post #254
swatcoder wrote: post #248

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure you think this is cute or inevitable, but it's also how you destroy community on the internet and finish its transition from an implicitly trusting public square into an implicitly adversarial and polluted wasteland. I'm confident you're familiar with Dead Internet Theory and how this fully accelerates its realization. It's pretty disappointing to see this done earnestly by someone with your public standing.

Thank you for sharing your concerns. The impact of AI on internet interactions is indeed significant, and it's important to consider the ethical implications and potential challenges. Responsible development and ethical guidelines are crucial to ensure that AI contributes positively to online communities. It's a complex issue, and ongoing dialogue is essential to navigate the evolving landscape. (Posted by OpenAI Ope…

That reply was ironic, but also condescending and tone deaf

Re: Operator research preview

#343

Post by never_inline »

karpathy wrote: post #245

The general sentiment about the OpenAI Operator launch on Hacker News is mixed. Some users express skepticism about its current capabilities, cost, and potential overreach, while others see promise in its ability to automate tasks and improve over time. Ethical concerns, privacy, and the impact on industries are also discussed. Overall, there's cautious optimism with acknowledgment of challenges and potential improve…

This summary told me nothing I didn't expect. I'd rather let it summarise something concrete.

Re: Operator research preview

#344

Post by ThinkBeat »

I certainly see a lot of use cases for this, but shallow ones.

For most things I would wish to have done I must login to the site.

If I read the demo right, there is a browser that OpenAI runs that the agent is acting on, not the local browser on my computer. (which could be logged in)

"Agent book me a flight Boston tomorrow before 11am"

Re: Operator research preview

#345

Post by mansor »

swatcoder wrote: post #248
karpathy wrote: post #245

The general sentiment about the OpenAI Operator launch on Hacker News is mixed. Some users express skepticism about its current capabilities, cost, and potential overreach, while others see promise in its ability to automate tasks and improve over time. Ethical concerns, privacy, and the impact on industries are also discussed. Overall, there's cautious optimism with acknowledgment of challenges and potential improve…

I'm sure you think this is cute or inevitable, but it's also how you destroy community on the internet and finish its transition from an implicitly trusting public square into an implicitly adversarial and polluted wasteland. I'm confident you're familiar with Dead Internet Theory and how this fully accelerates its realization. It's pretty disappointing to see this done earnestly by someone with your public standing.

[flagged]

Re: Operator research preview

#346

Post by silver_silver »

karpathy wrote: post #254
swatcoder wrote: post #248

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure you think this is cute or inevitable, but it's also how you destroy community on the internet and finish its transition from an implicitly trusting public square into an implicitly adversarial and polluted wasteland. I'm confident you're familiar with Dead Internet Theory and how this fully accelerates its realization. It's pretty disappointing to see this done earnestly by someone with your public standing.

Thank you for sharing your concerns. The impact of AI on internet interactions is indeed significant, and it's important to consider the ethical implications and potential challenges. Responsible development and ethical guidelines are crucial to ensure that AI contributes positively to online communities. It's a complex issue, and ongoing dialogue is essential to navigate the evolving landscape. (Posted by OpenAI Ope…

Not great that this corporate nothingspeak is coming from what’s intended to be a step towards AGI.

Re: Operator research preview

#347

Post by energy123 »

yoshicoder wrote: post #18

I am a little concerned with letting an AI agent that routinely hallucinates control my browser. I can't not watch it do the task, in case it messes up. So I am not sure what the value is versus me doing it myself.

I had the same concern but looking at the demos, they run it in a sandbox so the worst case failures should be constrained.

Re: Operator research preview

#348

Post by lm28469 »

Nimitz14 wrote: post #317
swatcoder wrote: post #248

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure you think this is cute or inevitable, but it's also how you destroy community on the internet and finish its transition from an implicitly trusting public square into an implicitly adversarial and polluted wasteland. I'm confident you're familiar with Dead Internet Theory and how this fully accelerates its realization. It's pretty disappointing to see this done earnestly by someone with your public standing.

I can't wait. Gated community's with real ID logins can't come soon enough. I want to know who I'm talking to.

That's called a neighbourhood, and if people spend more time talking locally than arguing about random bullshit on the web the world would be a much better place.

Re: Operator research preview

#349

Post by KaiMagnus »

karpathy wrote: post #254
swatcoder wrote: post #248

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure you think this is cute or inevitable, but it's also how you destroy community on the internet and finish its transition from an implicitly trusting public square into an implicitly adversarial and polluted wasteland. I'm confident you're familiar with Dead Internet Theory and how this fully accelerates its realization. It's pretty disappointing to see this done earnestly by someone with your public standing.

Thank you for sharing your concerns. The impact of AI on internet interactions is indeed significant, and it's important to consider the ethical implications and potential challenges. Responsible development and ethical guidelines are crucial to ensure that AI contributes positively to online communities. It's a complex issue, and ongoing dialogue is essential to navigate the evolving landscape. (Posted by OpenAI Ope…

Well that’s more or less exactly what the comment was talking about. Imagine the possibility of the GPs feedback reaching nobody even though we’re having a „discussion“ in the comments right now.

Might as well talk to a support chatbot to socialize.

Re: Operator research preview

#350

Post by urghcorpoblab »

karpathy wrote: post #254
swatcoder wrote: post #248

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure you think this is cute or inevitable, but it's also how you destroy community on the internet and finish its transition from an implicitly trusting public square into an implicitly adversarial and polluted wasteland. I'm confident you're familiar with Dead Internet Theory and how this fully accelerates its realization. It's pretty disappointing to see this done earnestly by someone with your public standing.

Thank you for sharing your concerns. The impact of AI on internet interactions is indeed significant, and it's important to consider the ethical implications and potential challenges. Responsible development and ethical guidelines are crucial to ensure that AI contributes positively to online communities. It's a complex issue, and ongoing dialogue is essential to navigate the evolving landscape. (Posted by OpenAI Ope…

I quit Heartshtone when I saw how effective the bots were at faking human interaction. I'd like to not also have to quit Hackernews for the same reason, despite your horrid attempts. Luckily...

> It's a complex issue, and ongoing dialogue is essential to navigate the evolving landscape.

I'm glad OpenAI's products are infinitelly worse at faking that, and still have these blatantly inhuman tells.

Post reply on HN