Side note, but I hate that we're moving to a world where coding costs a subscription. I fell in love with coding because I could take my dad's old Thinkpad, install Linux for free - fire up Emacs and start hacking without an internet connection. We're truly building walls everywhere.
You are not alone. The only future for these sorts of AI coding helpers is for them to use 100% free software AIs. On the bright side good progress is being made in that area and the main sticking point seems to be the expensive hardware to run them on (and integration). Costs on that hardware will hopefully drop over time so they won't still be mostly limited to 1st world (like the subscriptions).
Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance
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#342If I ever have a need for buggy crap code, any random boot camp dev can write it for no money at all.
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#343Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I might want to move to the US in the future. > (…) (who knows what the mainstream politics will look like, things that are very innocent today might be punishable by death in 10 years). Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t think I’d ever consider moving to a country where I believed politics to be so unstable that an action could go from “very innocent” to “punishable by death” in the span of a decade.
I couldn’t name a single country on earth where I would be certain that this could not happen. 10 years is a long time, a lot can happen politically.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_by_country
It doesn’t seem plausible that in countries where even euthanasia isn’t allowed things could get so out of hand that the death penalty would not only be reimplemented but it would devolve so fast that you’d start executing people for things which aren’t even crimes right now.
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#344I see many comments about not using this because China/ByteDance stealing data, etc. I get it for for enterprise, you don't want your code leaking to the outside world, even if in my experience, the code is mostly garbage and not worth that much. But if it's for some personal project that you're putting on Github, does it matter? If my code is going on Github anyway, it's going to get slurped up regardless. I don't p…
Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance
#345I see many comments about not using this because China/ByteDance stealing data, etc. I get it for for enterprise, you don't want your code leaking to the outside world, even if in my experience, the code is mostly garbage and not worth that much. But if it's for some personal project that you're putting on Github, does it matter? If my code is going on Github anyway, it's going to get slurped up regardless. I don't p…
I'm glad people care about their personal data, I just wished they cared as much when talking about ChatGPT, because in reality if you're not a Chinese dissident living abroad, then OpenAI is much more dangerous to you than the CCP.
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#346Side note, but I hate that we're moving to a world where coding costs a subscription. I fell in love with coding because I could take my dad's old Thinkpad, install Linux for free - fire up Emacs and start hacking without an internet connection. We're truly building walls everywhere.
> I fell in love with coding because I could take my dad's old Thinkpad, install Linux for free - fire up Emacs and start hacking without an internet connection. I'm not understanding what it is about a private company launching a product that changes that?
Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance
#347Side note, but I hate that we're moving to a world where coding costs a subscription. I fell in love with coding because I could take my dad's old Thinkpad, install Linux for free - fire up Emacs and start hacking without an internet connection. We're truly building walls everywhere.
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#348Who would ever allow this in their organisation after the tiktok shutdown, just go for one of the other 17 ai IDE forks
Who cares what political stunts the US is currently going through? Except for the ~4% of the world who happens to live there, the rest of us tend to choose tools based on either what others around us use, or what we've found to work best for us. If that happens to be an editor from China instead of US, I don't know what difference that would make? Both governments in those countries are crazy about spying on both the…
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#349There's no way I am using a Chinese IDE with VSCode (w/ Coppilot) and Cursor existing after reading the privacy issues in the court documents with TikTok. Bytedance had some extremely overreaching expectations of data it wanted. That being said, I am using (Chinese) Deepseek r1 because there isn't currently a free LLM on par with it. I am careful with what I share though, a little more so than with any others that ar…
To me USA and China are both foreign nations, and USA is the one who is far more aggressive in terms of army and spies. So as a non USA citizen, I'm way more afraid of USA than I am of China.
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#350China is taking every venture-funded AI startup and shitting on them. Almost all of them. Tencent's Hunyuan 3D - Tripo, etc. Tencent's Hunyuan Video - Sora, Runway, Pika, etc. ByteDance's Trae - Cursor, etc. DeepSeek R1 - GPT, etc. Unitree - Figure, Tesla, Boston Dynamics, etc. And a ton of this stuff is completely open source. All of the Tencent stuff is. This destroys the moat of so many companies that have spent h…
If these AI efforts are funded by the Chinese government, it makes perfect sense as a strategy. The more successful they are, the more risky it becomes to invest in US AI companies, leading to fewer investments (and less know-how in the long term), and China getting even more ahead. (I am not in AI, so please correct me if this is inaccurate.)
(Source: frustrated friends who lose the government contract to someone with inferior technology)