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Google’s Marissa Mayer Tapped as Yahoo’s Chief

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Re: Google’s Marissa Mayer Tapped as Yahoo’s Chief

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Interesting. So that reply was ages old, but in the event that you're dealing with a manager like that today - what is the best thing to do outside of leaving the organization?

If the organization is large enough, try to make an amicable break and move internally. This is the simplest way if you do not have a conscience about the company or your work (not always a bad thing to be conscience-less about these things). If you can't move internally, pursue two threads of action simultaneously: (1) In most situations, you will have a smart, rational person you might be aware of in the layer that…

"Be prepared to back up your claims with documented, solid evidence of the behavior. Keep emotional, hyperbolic, prejudicial expressions or assertions to yourself - they will only work against you in such situations. Avoid ultimatums. Express faith in the system and the ability for the person to change. Express willingness to change yourself. In other words, come off as the bigger person right from the beginning and at all times."

Based on past bitter experience I've boiled this down to, "Don't be easy to dismiss."

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They're going to have to literally reinvent themselves. Not in the B.S. wishy-washy way they've proclaimed numerous times. But in the balls out risky reinvention where if you fail, the company potentially gets sold for peanuts. They're not going to get anywhere playing it safe at this point. The smart phone market is still relatively wide open for new, not-yet-thought-of services. Yahoo could throw their focus strong…

In a day when Instagram can be acquired for $1B, how much would Yahoo have to pay for Netflix? NFLX market cap is about $4.6B with $3B in assets.

Well that would certainly cover the 'risk everything to turn it around' idea posited above. I don't think anyone thinks FB didn't overpay for Instagram, it seemed like a desperate move, but then again they were flush with cash and it might be a great value compared to building their own.

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They've only stayed somewhat relevant the past decade due to partnerships and these legacy sorts of services. I agree 100% with this. But what are they to do? They aren't Amazon. Try and buy Netflix and battle it out with all the other digital entertainment services?

They're going to have to literally reinvent themselves. Not in the B.S. wishy-washy way they've proclaimed numerous times. But in the balls out risky reinvention where if you fail, the company potentially gets sold for peanuts. They're not going to get anywhere playing it safe at this point. The smart phone market is still relatively wide open for new, not-yet-thought-of services. Yahoo could throw their focus strong…

There was a time, not that long ago, where Yahoo! was in a bad situation. Their search engine was terrible, portals were dying and they were losing mindshare like you read about. The thing is, at the same time they were doing REALLY interesting R&D work (Yahoo! Pipes, YUI, etc).

The impression I get is that in the last few years between the cuts, layoffs and good people just leaving they have virtually no talent left to resussitate the company.

Am I wrong in thinking this? Where is all of this awesome new stuff going to come from?

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Fiero: Pontiac's great experiment at making a European style sports car. A real _proper_ sports car: Mid-engined, rear wheel drive. Except, because most most of the parts were from other GM vehicles, it was mostly shite. Still - very popular with kit car/replicar builders because they made quite a few of them (~350,000) and they're cheap as donor cars. Chevy 350: Basically a commodity engine. 5.7L pushrod V-8. Used i…

I've always found it weird how different engine sizes are in American cars as opposed to everything else. Unless you were going for a race car or something it's quite uncommon to have a 5.7L engine in anything but an American car.

It's fairly unusual these days. Only thing you'll find with an engine that big is either a full-size SUV, a large truck, or a Corvette.

Plus, if you weren't here, you might not appreciate just how horrible the "EPA era" engines were. Much stricter emission controls + not having the technology to really meet it led to some really de-tuned engines. Wouldn't be unusual for a 5-6L engine in those days to only make 140-160HP stock.

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It seems a lot like closing the barn door after the horses have left. If they were going to do anything damaging, why wouldn't they do it after they've decided they're leaving but before they tell you they're leaving? After all, they control when they tell you. I think that particular practice is security theater - it's so the employer can say "We take all possible precautions", regardless of whether the possible pre…

There's been a real state change. The individual has gone from an employee - with contractual obligations to the employer in terms of intellectual property, etc. - to a non-employee who may not have those same obligations. There are also issues of liability and safety - as a non-employee, they may no longer be covered by your insurance, depending on the type of workplace. Is it mostly for form? Probably, but there's…

Usually when you resign, there's an "effective MM/DD/YYYY" clause in your resignation letter. Until that date, you're still an employee, and still bound by any contractual obligations as such.

There's no particular reason for that effective date to be "now" vs. "two weeks from now". I've certainly had coworkers that announced their intention to resign 2 weeks or a month before their actual departure (actually, the one time I've quit a job, I think I stayed for a couple weeks afterwards wrapping up my project & transferring knowledge). The difference is only that in one case, the employee is intending to resign but you don't know about it, but in the other, the employee is intending to resign but you do know about it.

Re: Google’s Marissa Mayer Tapped as Yahoo’s Chief

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This move would be similar to Sanjay Jha moving from Qualcomm COO to Motorola Mobility CEO. Look at what happened now. Sanjay Jha not only got a nice compensation package from Motorola Mobility but also a great deal from leaving the CEO at MM after Google acquisition and another reputation to boot as being the one who revive Motorola from zero to hero (being acquired)

Re: Google’s Marissa Mayer Tapped as Yahoo’s Chief

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Corrected. Poor phrasing on my part. I was suggesting a likely alternative for her would be starting a company, not that Yahoo is anything like a startup.

Yahoo = Major Leagues , Starting your own start up = Minors

Wow, has HN been taken over by business types already?

Don't you think Mayer has enough capital, connections, reputation, experience, etc. that if she started a company to do what she wanted, how she wanted, it would be completely different from your average college-grad startup?

I mean, come on now. There's no comparing the two.

Re: Google’s Marissa Mayer Tapped as Yahoo’s Chief

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There's been a real state change. The individual has gone from an employee - with contractual obligations to the employer in terms of intellectual property, etc. - to a non-employee who may not have those same obligations. There are also issues of liability and safety - as a non-employee, they may no longer be covered by your insurance, depending on the type of workplace. Is it mostly for form? Probably, but there's…

Usually when you resign, there's an "effective MM/DD/YYYY" clause in your resignation letter. Until that date, you're still an employee, and still bound by any contractual obligations as such. There's no particular reason for that effective date to be "now" vs. "two weeks from now". I've certainly had coworkers that announced their intention to resign 2 weeks or a month before their actual departure (actually, the on…

If you've read the news reports, this was an immediate resignation. At least in California, there's no obligation to give notice on a resignation. It's a courtesy, but in the case of some senior positions, or when you're going to a competitor, a company isn't going to want you to work two more weeks anyway.

Re: Google’s Marissa Mayer Tapped as Yahoo’s Chief

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http://techcrunch.com/2012/07/16/marissa-mayer-the-first-eve... - Respect.

It will be very interesting to see her juggle a pregnancy and being a new CEO. I wonder if she goes "MIA" for a bit after she has the baby.

Pregnancy doesn't really affect your ability to work (except for complications that require bedrest, and even then you work from home). A newborn does require care from the mother, but many women are able to return to work full time after 6 weeks (and some as early as 3 weeks). She'll probably be on leave for a few weeks after baby arrives, but I'm sure she'll be able to keep an eye on things even while she's gone (this is why the night nurse was invented).

A baby and a career are not mutually exclusive, I just wish people would stop assuming that they are.

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