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A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by jki275 »

sneak wrote: post #333
mikeortman wrote: post #256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just be careful! In SOME jurisdictions, you can get in trouble for 'stealing' if you take back something that was stolen. Possession vs Ownership are 2 different things. For instance, the thief may have stolen something, sold it to someone who bought it in good-faith, and you take it back from that person, it's technically theft! File a police report, go through the right channels. If you know its yours, call the pol…

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Oh come on, that's not even hyperbole, it's straight out flame bait, and it's absolutely false.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by weakfish »

citizenpaul wrote: post #230
elzbardico wrote: post #172

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A lot of those thiefs are not hardened criminals, because the payoff for this kind of crime is usually a small fraction of the actual value of the things stolen. Most of time it is the average wimpy addict and the reason he resort to this kind of criminal activity is preciselly because he is not ready for the violent potential of more profitable criminal activities. If you relativelly fit, and have some experience wi…

>stop glorifying cowardice I mostly agree. I don't think its cowardice most of the time though. Its that laws now favor criminals if you attempt to do anything yourself. Its become public policy that "rich" people buying things can simply absorb the loss and the police don't even have to do anything because no one bothers to report it. The police win because crime stats go down, thiefs win because they get the goods,…

Can I get a source on any of these claims?

Tbf, I am generally anti-police in the sense that they’re pretty institutionally bad at preventing or deterring crime in the current model, but I don’t really understand the argument you’re making here

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by weakfish »

NoPicklez wrote: post #273
theteapot wrote: post #247

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> Worst case scenario I report it to police directly and it tells them exactly where it is. Yes, and then wait 6 months for the police to get around to picking it up ...

Well I'd rather be able to file a report with a location and proof of purchase than filing a report without having a single clue where it is

That doesn’t mean the system shouldn’t be improved, though?

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by csomar »

jerlam wrote: post #4

Not a bad price, but it does require an existing Airtag. Ten years is a very long time in tech. I wouldn't be confident that the Airtag protocol will be functioning in 2035, and there are already rumors of a new Airtag and possibly a newer protocol coming up.

While Apple products become obsolete, they are not exactly killed. i.e. your 15 year old macbook still functions but is limited. The air tag is a bit different because deprecating the protocol essentially kills it completely.

I highly doubt they do that unless they are remove airtags completely from their product line.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by serf »

happyopossum wrote: post #326
srockets wrote: post #287

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The police won’t help you. It’s not their job.

Move, or elect better local politicians. Your city is broken.

we can't all live in Bedford Falls, and the police aren't there for the benefit of the every-person no matter where you live.

it's a nice bit of propaganda that they're there for us, but I urge anyone with that idea to seek out and research the history and origins of the modern police.

hint : in the US they first emerged as 'slave patrols', and then later modernized into 'industrial labor controls', and things weren't all that much better across the ocean in London with Sir Robert Peel and his version of the 'police service'.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by telotortium »

a12k wrote: post #319
kwar13 wrote: post #310

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Come to latam and you'll see some intense confrontation when something gets stolen. I was in a hostel when someone broke into lockers and they tracked him to the a bus station and got all their stuff back + dude in handcuffs to police station.

I searched Google maps for Latam but could only find an airline. Where is this?

Latin America

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by saagarjha »

happyopossum wrote: post #325
joshuahaglund wrote: post #317

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IDK where you live but where I am, unless it's an actively life threatening emergency, the Police will say they're busy. I watched a drunk driver try to drive away after smashing into a parked car, ripping a wheel off the parked car. The drunk driver kept trying to start his car to get away. People called the police but they said they're busy. Fortunately his car was totaled and wouldn't start either. Over an hour la…

Sounds like you live in a crappy big city like SF, Oakland, Santa Clara, etc. For the vast majority of people who live in reasonable cities, calling the police for something like that will get a timely response.

Santa Clara, population 110,000, is a big city to you?

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by avidiax »

phil21 wrote: post #251
jmull wrote: post #81

I know this is useful (for something), but I'm stuck on the plot holes in the motivating story... Why didn't they replace the battery when the app complained? How long would a thief really keep the AirTag anyway? If the thief did keep the AirTag and you tracked them down, then what? A confrontation has a fairly high chance to have a worse result than losing some equipment. You could try to get the police to do it, bu…

> A confrontation has a fairly high chance to have a worse result than losing some equipment. Maybe. I agree it's a risk I'd ask myself more than a few times if I'm willing to take these days, but in my youth and when I was less economically secure I never had a problem taking matters like these into my own hands. Every time I've tracked down a stolen item (phones were the most common with early tracking apps, but be…

I have some sympathy for your argument, but I think you are fundamentally misunderstanding the power dynamic between citizens and criminals.

Some of the petty thieves will think twice if they hear about other thieves getting beat up. Many of them will simply respond with violence.

Look at Latin American countries where thieves will shoot you dead for an iPhone.

The bicycle thieves are going to steal no matter what. They have to score their next hit. Better that they can do that armed only with an angle grinder rather than a pistol, too.

And if someone decides to turn a bicycle theft into a murder, well, the bicycle thief can usually "live off the land" much easier than you can. When you are used to living on the street and all you need is your next hit, it's much harder to catch you for murder, even if you can be identified.

In a fight where you have more to lose, are an order of magnitude more likely to be held accountable, and your opponent is irrational, effectively anonymous, and probably more practiced in violence than you, escalation seems unfavorable even if it leaves you with a shitty feeling.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by windexh8er »

jmull wrote: post #81

I know this is useful (for something), but I'm stuck on the plot holes in the motivating story... Why didn't they replace the battery when the app complained? How long would a thief really keep the AirTag anyway? If the thief did keep the AirTag and you tracked them down, then what? A confrontation has a fairly high chance to have a worse result than losing some equipment. You could try to get the police to do it, bu…

I'll explain why I want this.

I don't use the Apple ecosystem as my primary, but I do have a bunch of tags I use in different cases for different items. Some of my items are things like motorsports vehicles or trailers and other things that are around but often out of sight.

If something were to go missing I may not notice immediately. It also seems the batteries in AirTags die faster in areas where climate control isn't the norm. Changing these out every year is a pain because some are hidden in areas that aren't easy to get to.

I hope these work well. And I was pleasantly surprised by the price point. Already ordered!

Also... I already own ElevationLabs Surface Mounts that I use and they are well made products. I love finding brands like this because it's not the norm on outlets like Amazon anymore. So when I find a good product I'm more than happy to keep buying their products, the premium is worth it.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by varenc »

If you could disable the public key rotation on the AirTag, presumably you could greatly extend its battery life at the cost of your own privacy. When your battery gets low, Apple warns that "privacy protection is temporarily adjusted, AirTag may be traceable over Bluetooth". Wish I could enable this behavior in certain situations to extend the life.

(Or hook up an oversized external battery like this one, but tune the voltage to ~2V so it always looks like a nearly depleted CR2032 battery!)

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