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We all took the DVD boom era for granted

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Re: We all took the DVD boom era for granted

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A significant percentage of people alive today have never made an analog phone call, or know just how good (and low latency!) it was to literally have two copper wires connecting two phones thousands of miles apart. Direct at the speed of light (almost)!

Long distance calls were all digital in 1980s, and probably sooner. (I don't know the exact timeframe when analog coax was replaced by T1s.)

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Re: We all took the DVD boom era for granted

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A significant percentage of people alive today have never made an analog phone call, or know just how good (and low latency!) it was to literally have two copper wires connecting two phones thousands of miles apart. Direct at the speed of light (almost)!

Long distance calls were all digital in 1980s, and probably sooner. (I don't know the exact timeframe when analog coax was replaced by T1s.)

Digitization started quite early (1960s) but it did not finish until decades later. The first transatlantic fibre optic cable was only laid in 1988. Before that communication between North America and Europe was analog. The Internet and other networks of that time linked over the Atlantic with modems over satellite or voice channels on the analog coaxial submarine cables.

TAT-7 - 4000 analog 3 kHz channels over coaxial, laid 1983

TAT-8 - 280 Mbit/s over fibre optic, laid 1988

Re: We all took the DVD boom era for granted

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> There was the rather strange Wake Up, Ron Burgundy: The Lost Movie, released shortly after the feature film came out in 2004. Essentially, director Adam McKay had shot so much material while making Anchorman: The Legend Of Ron Burgundy, and abandoned so many story ideas (including a whole subplot about a fictional terrorist organisation) that it was cut into a separate 90-minute release. (It wasn’t great, but an interesting curio nonetheless.)

I miss when studios and directors would actually edit movies properly. If Anchorman were released today on Netflix, it would have been a 2 hour 15 minute slog, with 10 minutes of laughs here and there, rather than the sharp and hilarious 90 minute comedy that it was.

Re: We all took the DVD boom era for granted

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A movie adaptation of a book is a retelling of a story for a completely different type of audience, so it's an apples to oranges comparison always .

There's a difference between adaptation; and retelling the story in a way that damages the integrity of the original. Many of the above changes don't make sense even within the movie's own material. Even if the books didn't exist, Faramir's filmic story arc (as just one example) would be a badly executed example of character development.

I also dislike the way Faramir was adapted but it makes sense. It puts a greater emphasis on the exceptionality of Aragorn by removing the complexity of the Faramir character and basically making him a second Boromir. Considering that the movie is necessarily a more condense experience than a book, it's a good choice.

Re: We all took the DVD boom era for granted

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YouTube does still allow to "buy"/rent movies one apiece.

Nowhere can one pay a fee and receive a legal digital copy of a movie. YouTube allows people to pay for the privilege of being allowed to stream a movie for and indefinite period of time. YouTube retains the right to revoke all movie "purchases" at any time. GP is asking why we can't actually buy digital copies of the movies like we could with music in the iTunes era.

Not the same as a real file download but you can "download" a youtube video to your local cache with premium.

Re: We all took the DVD boom era for granted

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>For example, many animes are a shot-for-shot recreation of manga. This is something of a newer phenomenon in the grander history of anime as an artform. Osamu Tezuka, one of the founding fathers of the modern anime industry, notably created the filler-heavy formats of yesteryear that were the dominant form of popular televised anime well into the 21st century. There are notable early outliers like Yu Yu Hakusho and…

In some cases, the runtime being padded with filler was less about cashing in and more about trying to not catch up to the manga too quickly. FMA (2003) is a fun example of this not happening, where they basically wound up creating a custom ending to the series because they got ahead of the manga.

>In some cases, the runtime being padded with filler was less about cashing in and more about trying to not catch up to the manga too quickly.

Right, so rather than stopping production on the anime until the manga had time to get ahead, most anime created filler to cash in on the popularity of the ongoing manga, rather than to try to make the most faithful adaptation. Nowadays it's more common for anime to halt production and release a follow-up season years later when the manga has gotten farther ahead.

Re: We all took the DVD boom era for granted

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> Before you just needed a DVD player However you also needed to physically buy a copy of every movie you want to watch, instead of signing up for one service and having access to thousandsd immediately.

Or rent a movie for a couple of bucks. Or check out a DVD for free from a public library.

You can still rent movies for a couple of bucks from Amazon, almost everything is on there... but you have to pay a few bucks _on the internet_ which somehow seems more painful than handing a credit card to a cashier at a physical rental store.

Re: We all took the DVD boom era for granted

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>For example, many animes are a shot-for-shot recreation of manga. This is something of a newer phenomenon in the grander history of anime as an artform. Osamu Tezuka, one of the founding fathers of the modern anime industry, notably created the filler-heavy formats of yesteryear that were the dominant form of popular televised anime well into the 21st century. There are notable early outliers like Yu Yu Hakusho and…

> This is something of a newer phenomenon in the grander history of anime as an artform It's hard to argue about 'a newer phenomenon' which is now closer to Astro Boy than our current time. > most of the popular anime had their runtimes padded all to hell in order to continually cash in on the unpredictable zeitgeist popularity of their source material You can't 'faithfully recreate shot-for-shot' an ongoing title, y…

>It's hard to argue about 'a newer phenomenon' which is now closer to Astro Boy than our current time.

Last I checked, the 2010s are closer to now than to the 1960s. This didn't become the norm until the 2010s. I called out Death Note and Yu Yu Hakusho as notable exceptions and did note the initial start of it in smaller OVAs. I guess if you're going from the earliest OVA that did this then your comment does make sense. I was thinking more in terms of when the trend to do so became dominant.

>You can't 'faithfully recreate shot-for-shot' an ongoing title, you would be out of the material way earlier than out of the runtime.

Right. The modern trend is to wait until a series is done, or at least until it has enough plot/action in the manga to cover a full season before entering production. Chainsaw Man was over before the first season of the anime came out. Demon Slayer finished around the time the anime started. This is a new-ish trend among big popular TV anime. So as I said, it used to be that anime would be produced while the manga was still ongoing and popular, which lead to filler as a much more common phenomenon.

>This is not even diving on the differences between the manga and the manga eiga.

By all means, feel free to split hairs. I was just trying to give newcomers a more zoomed-out view of the history of anime, but if you'd like to delve into details, have at it.

Re: We all took the DVD boom era for granted

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I still prefer to own movies I like and I have many of them. (no, not SO many as YOU have, my adversary). I think that having them will allow me one day to stop paying constantly more and more expensive subscriptions. By the way, for me, the DVD standard was very strange. I think that the engineering industry works differently than IT/CS guys. They think of "a product" which consists of the medium AND the "protocol"…

> I still prefer to own movies

It's looking like it's going to be harder and harder to find a physical DVD _player_, though. When the one you have breaks down, you may not be able to buy a replacement.

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