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Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by dylan604 »

aaronax wrote: post #338
dylan604 wrote: post #329

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Great, yet another attempt at solving this with yet another standard that not everyone will use. Why did you pick this attempt instead of something more common like Gracenote?

Gracenote is owned by private equity and has limited availability of data. I prefer to encourage the use of more open data. MusicBrainz or Discogs would have been better choices than Wikidata based on quantity of entries. Though in 5 minutes I have been unable to find if Discogs even has external IDs, and I am not sure of the quantity of Spotify IDs that MusicBrainz has.

Great that you want to use open sources, but now, you've just provided more evidence for my case as you've listed 2 new "sources of truth". Even that fact that there are plural truth sources indicates no one source is truth. Why are they different? Same reasons that have already been discussed

So, we really have not made any forward progress here

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by kristofferR »

bean-weevil wrote: post #28

It would be fantastic if this site were a pwa that supported the chrome api [1] that lets you share directly to it on android. I would make a pr but my company owns all my ip and getting an exception takes months :( 1: https://chodounsky.com/2019/03/24/progressive-web-applicatio...

Just create an anonymous new GitHub user, it's like jaywalking. They'll never know.

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by antonvs »

spondyl wrote: post #131
gertlex wrote: post #126

This is a bit off-topic, but: am I just dim or could the README be a bit more informative? What it's for, who it's for, etc. (I'll give partial blame to me or github for the About section/link being there... it's offscreen by the start of the README, so I missed it) (I also... don't use spotify... so had less-than-average context to guess the purpose of this project with.)

Anecdotally speaking, Spotify has become a sort of cultural default for a bunch of people. If you're in a DM or a group chat, you may not hear "You should listen to X by Y" but rather "Check this out: https://open.spotify.com/blah " At my current workplace and a previous one, both had Slack channels for sharing music and they were 99% Spotify links. Partly because of genuine Spotify usage but even not using Spotify a…

> for those few users not using Spotify

That's quite the extrapolation from your anecdotal experience. Technically, it would be more accurate to say, "for those few users using Spotify."

What you've noticed is that Spotify has the biggest market share, but that doesn't mean that the number of users not using it are "few". According to https://explodingtopics.com/blog/music-streaming-stats, Spotify has a 30% market share. That implies that up to 70% of streaming music users aren't regular Spotify users.

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by rjmunro »

coder543 wrote: post #330
__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #310

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used this. It worked fine. It's a shame it's necessary though... I wish there was some kind of vendor-neutral import/export format rather than requiring a third party to solve the whole matrix of integrations.

The music industry needs to more widely use some kind of equivalent to the ISBN that the book industry uses. A simple "ISMN" list per playlist/library would be all that would be needed to move between services when both apps have the same songs. One could also imagine a standardized ismn:// URL format that could open in your preferred music app, and this could work even without a streaming service if you already own…

MusicBrainz has also been making a list of unique identifiers for music tracks: https://musicbrainz.org/

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by [deleted] »

coder543 wrote: post #339
Muromec wrote: post #333

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, but the next step is to make identifier somethink like a has so the media can be content addressable. Wait, we can't have that. It's too convenient

Content addressable doesn't really work here... different apps may have the same recordings encoded in different formats and bitrates, but they are still the same recording. Unless you meant "content addressable" in the sense of a uniquely assigned identifier like I was already talking about, and not a computed identifier from the raw bytes of the file like a hash.

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Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by Pxtl »

coryd_dev wrote: post #15
askonomm wrote: post #8

I'd love to actually buy music and store it myself, as I've started noticing more and more that some of the songs I have on Spotify have started to disappear, but I find it very difficult to buy modern music anymore. Most gets released as singles, and as far as I know, to only streaming platforms. Is there a way to still buy the same kind of music that is on streaming platforms, and actually get the audio files?

Bandcamp, 7Digital and (extremely reluctantly) Amazon. The bigger the label the harder it is to buy music digitally.

Amazon hates Canada (no Amazon music store, no Household plan) so here the tool of last resort is iTunes Music Store (it still exists, apparently).

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by Pxtl »

eleveriven wrote: post #143
askonomm wrote: post #8

I'd love to actually buy music and store it myself, as I've started noticing more and more that some of the songs I have on Spotify have started to disappear, but I find it very difficult to buy modern music anymore. Most gets released as singles, and as far as I know, to only streaming platforms. Is there a way to still buy the same kind of music that is on streaming platforms, and actually get the audio files?

I know that some artists sell their music directly from their own websites. I prefer to buy CD versions actually...

I can never justify it to myself if the shipping cost is more than 25% of the product price.

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by nonethewiser »

__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #310
mkhalil wrote: post #103

I know of a even more impressive website that will transfer playlists from Spotify (or 20 other platforms, including text files) to 20 other platforms or a text file. I will share the link, but don't hug it to death y'all. :) https://app.tunemymusic.com/transfer

I used this. It worked fine. It's a shame it's necessary though... I wish there was some kind of vendor-neutral import/export format rather than requiring a third party to solve the whole matrix of integrations.

> I wish there was some kind of vendor-neutral import/export format rather than requiring a third party to solve the whole matrix of integrations.

"vendor-neutral import/export format" sounds like the definition of third party. It's not that there shouldn't be a third party, it's that spotify etc. should adopt it.

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by rvba »

dylan604 wrote: post #341
aaronax wrote: post #338

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gracenote is owned by private equity and has limited availability of data. I prefer to encourage the use of more open data. MusicBrainz or Discogs would have been better choices than Wikidata based on quantity of entries. Though in 5 minutes I have been unable to find if Discogs even has external IDs, and I am not sure of the quantity of Spotify IDs that MusicBrainz has.

Great that you want to use open sources, but now, you've just provided more evidence for my case as you've listed 2 new "sources of truth". Even that fact that there are plural truth sources indicates no one source is truth. Why are they different? Same reasons that have already been discussed So, we really have not made any forward progress here

Reality is that simply very few people use this functionality.

If those two open access sources become big enough, it is quite clear that someone will make a project to reconcile the data between them.

If any of those projects skyrockets the same way wikipedia skyrocketed, then the topic will be solved.

Re: I Don't Have Spotify

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

imperialdrive wrote: post #90
grahamj wrote: post #66

This is great, thanks! I left Spotify when they signed Rogan.

I don't follow. Is he anti music or something? Afaik he's on Apple, Amazon, and Youtube as well. Do you not use anything related to him? I'm honestly curious for some reason.

Some people are intolerant and think that "they allow someone who I disagree with" is grounds to stop doing business with a service. It's a toxic attitude, but sadly common.
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