HTML Form Validation is underused

Post by CRConrad » Sat, Nov 09, 2024, 4:11 PM UTC

wvenable wrote: post #72

ryandrake wrote: post #50

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As a user, I want common UI controls to look and behave the same way across all web sites. Ideally, across all applications on my OS, but that's also a lost cause. POLA[1]. I can accept if the developer wants to somehow extend an existing control to support something new, but it's so irritating when they just re-implement their own thing entirely because they think their ideas are better than the browser's. Multiply…

This is one of these things that sounds perfectly logical -- you want all UI components to look and behave the same across all applications and all websites -- but that is more theoretical than practical. If you built an app that used just what the browser gives you and nothing more, you're leaving so much functionality on the floor. Having more expressive power often makes things simpler -- using more complex UI con…

Post by CRConrad » Sat, Nov 09, 2024, 4:19 PM UTC

wvenable wrote: post #313

NoGravitas wrote: post #263

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Strongly disagree. There are so many places where the browser itself provides a reasonably good user interface, and web developers fuck it up - scroll hijacking and history manipulation being two of the biggest examples. I suspect that one of the reasons we ended up in JS-hell is that HTML and browser built-in functionality lagged behind user expectations for so long. If browsers had offered the equivalent of AJAX an…

The browser only reluctantly accepts its role is an application UI platform. Every problem, including the ones you describe, come from the disconnect between what a browser is and what it is used for. The browser is always going to lag behind user expectations so that's why I think it's the last place we should put that functionality. Adding more high-level UI functionality is really in conflict with the idea of brow…