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Re: Some Automattic employees accept severance package offer

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Post by FireBeyond »

ValentineC wrote: post #334
FireBeyond wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That's uncharitable. Mullenweg has been pretty good for the FOSS ecosystem as a whole, and he's just going after one particular company This is actually far from Matt's first rodeo: He described Movable Type as "desperate and dirty players" for having a section in their docs on how to migrate WordPress content into a Movable Type blog. When Envato started allowing people to publish themes they had created with a pr…

There's also this: https://pearsonified.com/truth-about-thesis-com/

Wow, Matt really is an angry teenager lashing out in a middle aged man's body.

Re: Some Automattic employees accept severance package offer

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Post by slezyr »

hshshshsvsv wrote: post #88
senadir wrote: post #30

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Automattic is a fully remote company, getting jobs in APAC, Africa, and europe is tricky, not a lot are going to throw that away and hunt for a job for 6 months.

Stupid question but where exactly in the world is getting a remote job not tricky?

In Ukraine.

Re: Some Automattic employees accept severance package offer

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Post by ValentineC »

FireBeyond wrote: post #341
ValentineC wrote: post #334

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's also this: https://pearsonified.com/truth-about-thesis-com/

Wow, Matt really is an angry teenager lashing out in a middle aged man's body.

To be fair, that incident was nine years ago.

Re: Some Automattic employees accept severance package offer

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Post by flaminHotSpeedo »

randomdata wrote: post #317
flaminHotSpeedo wrote: post #303

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They stopped engaging because you seem either unwilling or incapable of understanding the difference between personal attacks and criticism of an artifact. To try and take the emotion out of it, it's the difference between saying "I am tired" versus "this comment I wrote makes me sound tired"

What personal attacks are you referring to? There are no personal attacks found anywhere in this thread, nor would there be any logical reason to bring emotions into it at all. But perhaps I have failed to understand what you are trying to say? Such is the trouble with communication.

The whole point of this thread is that you're defending what you perceived to be a personal attack against Matt (calling him a tyrant) and the other poster was trying to explain that it was not, in fact, a personal attack.

So if you agree there's no personal attacks, I guess that settles things!

Re: Some Automattic employees accept severance package offer

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Post by ufmace »

senadir wrote: post #223
ufmace wrote: post #205

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This actually makes me really suspicious about Automattic. Companies generally don't refuse to hire outside of certain countries just to be jerks, they do it because complying with international tax obligations while paying employees in dozens of countries is complex and expensive. Given that, and the behavior we've seen from Matt and Automattic so far, what are the odds that they've actually got a bunch of really gr…

You seem to never been in that shoe (from a country no one hires from). Companies avoid that because it’s too much hassle. Automattic cares and goes through the hassle, simple as that. You’re also talking without concrete knowledge. We work as international contractors, we handle our own local taxes. Automattic pays us the gross salary and it’s up to you.

> You seem to never been in that shoe (from a country no one hires from).

Why do you say that? I do have sympathy for people in such countries and circumstances, but this isn't about that. It's about corporate compliance. For better or worse, corporations cannot just do something because it's a nice thing to do. They have to comply with the law in both the country they are based in and operate in, as well as in any country any prospective remote workers might be in.

I also never claimed to have any concrete knowledge. It's entirely possible they are doing everything correctly. I just find it odd that they are reportedly doing something that many companies do not do due to it being legally complex, and also their CEO is spouting off a bunch of unwise statements on public forums while being actively sued, which any sane corporate lawyer would strongly advise them not to do.

Re: Some Automattic employees accept severance package offer

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Post by moeffju »

Mistletoe wrote: post #59
JohnMakin wrote: post #38

I can think of very few jobs where I wouldn’t take this offer immediately and have a few month sabbatical.

>Matt Mullenweg is returning from his 3 month sabbatical, dubbed “Samattical”, which kicked off February 1, 2024.

No matter how the court case goes, there's enough goodwill destroyed that he could rename himself Hazmatt by now.

Re: Some Automattic employees accept severance package offer

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Post by dgacmu »

righthand wrote: post #307
dgacmu wrote: post #294

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If you were to guide them today, what would you set them up that's not WP that gives functionality similar to wp+woo? (asking for someone who has a site using wp+woo. I don't plan to switch us - the switching cost is too high to be worth it - but I do want to have something in my pocket for the future.)

I would point you at headless cms software like ContentStack or Payload which are easy as pie to use and integrate with a react frontend.

Thank you!

Re: Some Automattic employees accept severance package offer

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Post by jart »

chx wrote: post #340
auggierose wrote: post #155

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Oh, finally a summary of the whole thing I understand.

Someone posts literal garbage filled with nonsense words and that's what you understand? What's going on here?

Wow I don't think I've ever made someone on Hacker News this upset before. If it makes you feel better, I chose to reply to your comment because you put the most effort into your analysis, and your comment contributed actual information, unlike a lot of the other low effort stuff.

Re: Some Automattic employees accept severance package offer

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Post by randomdata »

flaminHotSpeedo wrote: post #344
randomdata wrote: post #317

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What personal attacks are you referring to? There are no personal attacks found anywhere in this thread, nor would there be any logical reason to bring emotions into it at all. But perhaps I have failed to understand what you are trying to say? Such is the trouble with communication.

The whole point of this thread is that you're defending what you perceived to be a personal attack against Matt (calling him a tyrant) and the other poster was trying to explain that it was not, in fact, a personal attack. So if you agree there's no personal attacks, I guess that settles things!

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