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Foundations: Why Britain Has Stagnated

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Re: Foundations: Why Britain Has Stagnated

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post #140

This website makes some claims about what has caused both growth and decline that are pretty contentious. I think that many would argue that the growth following the second world war was the result of massive state investment in public services like creating the NHS and the building of council housing. They baffelingly attribute yhat growth to the Conservative Govrernment of the 1930s rather than the post war labour…

Water quality by country. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/water-qua... US is good while countries with more left leaning setups do bad. It is not as black and white as you imply.

Which is interesting, because I can't believe anyone would say the US water is good when no one will drink water from the faucet, it has to be filtered.

It has always been either over chlorinated, or out of a well with all sorts of contaminants such as sulphur.

Re: Foundations: Why Britain Has Stagnated

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"It may have been the greatest rapid expansion in a given economic sector in British history, and it was the key reason we didn’t experience a Great Depression while Germany, the USA, and France did. " But Great Britain (as it was then) did experience a great depression. 3.5 million people were unemployed in 1932. Ok - one could say that the depression in GB was less pronouced vs. the situation from 1918 on, but I th…

Also odd was the comparison to France, considering that France's great depression was arguably much less severe than in the UK, as it experienced less industrial decline, less unemployment and no financial crisis.

Re: Foundations: Why Britain Has Stagnated

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depending on the specifics, that sounds congruent with some of Adam Smith's economic theories so it's not surprising to see such arguments used, especially if some of the authors are from the Adam Smith Institute. His whole invisible hand metaphor is about society advancing as a whole from agents acting in their self interest. It's more likely a sincerely held belief than an attempt at misdirection.

Adam Smith is probably spinning in his grave. > His whole invisible hand metaphor is about society advancing as a whole from agents acting in their self interest. That theory is predicated on the market being composed of buyers and sellers of broadly similar financial power. This is no longer the case in most markets, certainly not in the UK as far as ordinary people or most small companies are concerned.

Yes. Markets pursue the interest of wealth-weighted humans, not evenly-weighted humans. Disguising "wealth weighted value" under the concept of "value" (which, colloquially, has a more even weight) is the propaganda coup of the century.

Re: Foundations: Why Britain Has Stagnated

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Weird how Western Europe stagnated after 1990, only Germany get some more “gas” for growth thanks to CEE and cheap energy. now it seems that importing tens of millions of low skilled refugees and workers with high social benefits is killing any innovation while taxing middle class and all high skilled Europeans prefer to move to US or even east Asia. Which makes whole industry lag behinds and UK is probably biggest e…

Europe failed to keep its bureaucracy at bay. There were times in the 1990s when people like the Dutch commissioner Frits Bolkenstein sincerely tried to liberalize and open the internal market. But at least since Brexit, possibly earlier, the EU has made a turn towards protectionism and closedness (at least economically; as you mention, it is way, way easier to ship people from Africa into the EU than bananas), a Fre…

Something tells me you are a brit living in CZ. Am I wrong?
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