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Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Post by maccard »

Sesse__ wrote: post #287

First impressions: 1. curl | sh, seriously 2. The default theme is so low-contrast that I seriously struggled to read text. I could not find something that was, like, actual white on actual black. 3. I can figure out how to enable Copilot, but not to open a file. (I had to resort to “zed file.cpp” from a terminal.) 4. vim keybindings are not bad, but also not perfect. 5. It feels… laggy? Isn't this supposed to be fas…

> 1. curl | sh, seriously

It's pretty much guaranteed to work cross-platform, and if you're worried about it you can save the script and view it yourself. You're about to run their binary on your machine, why are you concerned about the script you're downloading?

> 2. The default theme is so low-contrast that I seriously struggled to read text.

The landing page when I opened the app had an option to choose from about 40 themes. I tried 3 of them and they were no _worse_ than VSCode's defaults.

> but not to open a file.

usual keyboard shortcuts, and system menu bar?

> Where are preferences to turn it off? Where are the preferences for anything?

System menu bar, which links out to some fairly comprehensive docs - https://zed.dev/docs/configuring-zed

I agree on the vim keybindigs and the performance, though.

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Post by winternewt »

dindresto wrote: post #331
winternewt wrote: post #291

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just tried it on NixOS 24.05. It starts, but nothing happens when I click "Open a project" or Ctrl+O. It's as if it lacks the ability to show a file selection dialog.

NixOS 24.05 contains an older version of zed, as feature updates are generally not backported to stable NixOS releases. Try running the package from nixos-unstable instead.

Well that got rid of the core dump each time I quit, and it fixed the language server issues. So together with the portals configuration it seems to be working as well as it can.

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Post by sphars »

1oooqooq wrote: post #169

I don't really like their editor, but their fonts (based on iosevka) is my 2nd favorite (after Mensch). And their opensource development mode is the best one I've seen so far! So many nice choices.

Unfortunately, they've switched out their Zed fonts for IBM Plex: https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/pull/13596

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Post by IshKebab »

hamandcheese wrote: post #264
handsaway wrote: post #26

I tried zed for a few weeks because I'm generally sympathetic to the "use a native app" idea vs Electron. I generally liked it and its UX but: 1. VSCode is pretty damn fast to be honest. Very rarely is my slowdown in my work VSCode loading. Maybe I don't open very large files? Probably 5k lines of typescript at most. 2. Integration with the Typescript language server was just not as good as VSCode. I can't pin down e…

> I don't know what's on zed/VSCode and what's on the TS language server. Microsoft's latest embrace-extend-extinguish strategy is keeping just enough special sauce in (frequently closed-source) vscode extensions and out of the language servers. They do the same thing with Pyright/Pylance.

And the remote SSH and C++ extensions, though that actually has a good alternative in the Clangd extension.

I'm kind of ok with it tbh. As a monetisation strategy it's not the worst, and I have no expectation that they just do all this for free.

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Post by g8oz »

wheresmyshadow wrote: post #208
whalesalad wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sublime Text 3 is still one of my favorite editors. I use VSCode lately because of its excellent "Remote SSH" integration - but when it comes to latency sublime has it beat. Zed does not feel fast on my machine, which is a 13900K/128gb ram. It is running in xwayland though, so that could be part of the problem. It feels identical to vscode.

Sublime Text gang, raise up. I was always a fan of Sublime Text and I moved away from it once because VSC felt more "hassle-free". The extensions just worked, I didn't need to go through endless JSON files to configure things, I even uncluttered its interface but at the end of the day I returned to good old Sublime Text. Now with LSPs it requires way less tinkering with plugins. I only wish it had just a little bit m…

I feel the same way about Notepad++

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Post by [deleted] »

Sesse__ wrote: post #287

First impressions: 1. curl | sh, seriously 2. The default theme is so low-contrast that I seriously struggled to read text. I could not find something that was, like, actual white on actual black. 3. I can figure out how to enable Copilot, but not to open a file. (I had to resort to “zed file.cpp” from a terminal.) 4. vim keybindings are not bad, but also not perfect. 5. It feels… laggy? Isn't this supposed to be fas…

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Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Post by andrewl-hn »

1bent wrote: post #270

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom_%28text_editor%29#History... I found the zed website unhelpful, but if wikipedia is to be believed, it's a successor to the Atom text editor

The Atom editor is being maintained as a fork: Pulsar https://pulsar-edit.dev

Zed is co-founded by one (or more?) original developer of Atom. So, it's a successor in a sense that it is a new project by the same author.

Atom was developed at GitHub, and GitHub Inc remains the owner of the original Atom project. From their perspective the successor of Atom is VSCode - developed by their parent company, - despite the claims by a former Atom engineer.

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

varispeed wrote: post #302
handsaway wrote: post #26

I tried zed for a few weeks because I'm generally sympathetic to the "use a native app" idea vs Electron. I generally liked it and its UX but: 1. VSCode is pretty damn fast to be honest. Very rarely is my slowdown in my work VSCode loading. Maybe I don't open very large files? Probably 5k lines of typescript at most. 2. Integration with the Typescript language server was just not as good as VSCode. I can't pin down e…

Okay, call me weird, but why our standards have fallen so low? VSCode may appear fast, but still has massive latency. The Zed website claims 97ms. I can feel it is laggy. Why can't we have response time under 1ms? Even 5ms would be a massive improvement. For me latency is a massive productivity killer as it feels like walking in a swamp and it always puts me off.

Honestly I don't think that the problem with VSCode is speed, even. It's bloat. It uses gobs of RAM just to open up a few text files. I compared it to Sublime Text a while back and it was something like 500 MB (for Sublime) to 1-1.5 GB (VSCode). That's not acceptable in my view.

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Post by lexoj »

CapeTheory wrote: post #335

I have fallen in love with Zed on Mac, so glad to see it will still be an option when I switch back to Linux. My main concern is the collaboration features; just seems like a nonsensical addition. I have zero influence over what editors my teams use, and I work with dozens of different people on collaborative development every year - I'm not going to be persuading anyone to switch, and so that feature is just dead co…

Absolutely agree, the collaboration features put me off a bit. I think it can very well become a very successful and popular editor without those features. Perhaps they can invest in those feature when they have a much bigger market share.

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

correct-horse wrote: post #153
TiredOfLife wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's MIT licensed. So it's more FOSS than FOSS

It's free software in letter, but not in spirit. True free software doesn't lock out non-official builds for zero technical reasons.

The software is free, the extension site is not. I agree that's a shitty practice by MS, but it doesn't somehow make VSCode not free software.
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