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Post by chacham15 »

ugh123 wrote: post #219

From a filmmaking standpoint I still don't think this is impactful. For that it needs a "director" to say: "turn the horse's head 90˚ the other way, trot 20 feet, and dismount the rider" and "give me additional camera angles" of the same scene. Otherwise this is mostly b-roll content. I'm sure this is coming.

I dont think "turn the horse's head 90˚" is the right path forward. What I think is more likely and more useful is: here is a start keyframe and here is a stop keyframe (generated by text to image using other things like controlnet to control positioning etc.) and then having the AI generate the frames in between. Dont like the way it generated the in between? Choose a keyframe, adjust it, and rerun with the segment before and segment after.

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Post by mrbungie »

localfirst wrote: post #333
mrbungie wrote: post #274

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The amount of copium in this response is astounding. Yes, there is a noticeable negative response from HN towards Google, and there has always been especially when speaking about their weird product management practices and incentives. Google hasn't launched any notable (and still surviving, Stadia being a sad example of this) consumer product or service in the last 10 years. But to suggest there is a Sam Altman / Op…

My argument wasn't that there was a cabal of shady investors trying to influence perception here. your observation is certainly valid there is general disdain for Google but specifically I'm calling out people that were blatantly telling lies and making outlandish claims and attacking others who were simply pointing out that some of those people have financial motives (either being backed by YC or seek to benefit fro…

Well, you have a point. I've always thought that Hacker News YCombinator, but maybe the truth is in the middle. At the very least, this is food for thought.

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Post by aetherson »

ugh123 wrote: post #219

From a filmmaking standpoint I still don't think this is impactful. For that it needs a "director" to say: "turn the horse's head 90˚ the other way, trot 20 feet, and dismount the rider" and "give me additional camera angles" of the same scene. Otherwise this is mostly b-roll content. I'm sure this is coming.

Yeah, I've made a lot of images, and it sure is amazing if all you're interested in is, like, "Any basically good image," but if you start needing something very particular, rather than "anything that is on a general topic and is aesthetically pleasing," it gets a lot harder.

And there are a lot more degrees of freedom to get something wrong in film than in a single still image.

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Post by teaearlgraycold »

ugh123 wrote: post #219

From a filmmaking standpoint I still don't think this is impactful. For that it needs a "director" to say: "turn the horse's head 90˚ the other way, trot 20 feet, and dismount the rider" and "give me additional camera angles" of the same scene. Otherwise this is mostly b-roll content. I'm sure this is coming.

Everything I’ve heard from professionals backs that up. Great for B roll. Great for stock footage. That’s it.

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Post by candiddevmike »

xnx wrote: post #212

60 second example video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diqmZs1aD1g

For some reason this video reminds me of dreaming--details just kind of pop in and out and the entire thing seems very surreal and fractal.

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Post by imachine1980_ »

ugh123 wrote: post #219

From a filmmaking standpoint I still don't think this is impactful. For that it needs a "director" to say: "turn the horse's head 90˚ the other way, trot 20 feet, and dismount the rider" and "give me additional camera angles" of the same scene. Otherwise this is mostly b-roll content. I'm sure this is coming.

Stock videos are indeed crucial, especially now that we can easily search for precisely what we need. Take, for instance, the scene at the end of 'Look Up' featuring a native American dance in Peru. The dancer's movements were captured from a stock video, and the comet falling was seamlessly edited in. now imagine having near infinite stock videos tailored to the situation.

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Post by saalweachter »

khazhoux wrote: post #147
Koffiepoeder wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you prune all the branches, where will the fruits grow?

The branches were dead and could bear no fruit. New branches will sprout next season.

For grapes, the conventional wisdom is to prune all the old branches at the end of each season.

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Post by gedy »

ugh123 wrote: post #219

From a filmmaking standpoint I still don't think this is impactful. For that it needs a "director" to say: "turn the horse's head 90˚ the other way, trot 20 feet, and dismount the rider" and "give me additional camera angles" of the same scene. Otherwise this is mostly b-roll content. I'm sure this is coming.

I think with AI content, we'd need to not treat it like expecting fine grained control. E.g. instead like "dramatic scene of rider coming down path, and dismounting horse, then looking into distance", etc. (Or even less detail eventually once a cohesive story can be generated.)

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Post by myaccountonhn »

KorematsuFredt wrote: post #218

I think we should all take a pause and just appreciate the amazing work Google, OpenAI, MS and many others including those in academia have done. We do not know if Google or OpenAI or someone else is going to win the race but unlike many other races, this one makes the entire humanity move faster. Keep the negativity aside and appreciate the sweat and nights people have poured into making such things happen. Majority…

Majority of the people building the ai are artists having their work stolen or workers earning extremely low wages to label gory and csam data to a point where it hurts their mental health.
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