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Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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Is there a flight search service that allows filtering out Boeing planes?

yes, the K.. something. Mentioned in one of the latest Last Week Tonight episodes

https://www.kayak.com.au/flights

Might need an account to access the filter, but that was the one shown.

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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post #61

I'm just going to take this story at face value, there's an infinite number of alternate explanations that I'd be powerless to talk about. I've had my own (thankfully brief) moments where I've thought about suicide just from the perception that my coworkers, my bosses, the entire world, just does not care about doing the right thing. Mr Barnett worked for the same company for over three decades and physically watched…

> I've had my own (thankfully brief) moments where I've thought about suicide just from the perception that my coworkers, my bosses, the entire world, just does not care about doing the right thing.

Please share how you managed with this. I’ve been here for a few years - since I lost my wife - and some days I can barely hang on.

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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post #293

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Humanity has had people who did not care about doing the right thing since forever, and still we thrived. As long as someone is doing the right thing, we're on the right track. Relevant video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mScpHTIi-kM

It helps to give power to people who care about doing the right thing, instead of to people who don't care. Democracy tends towards the former, but capitalism tends towards the latter.

Most democratic countires have capitalist style manufacturing industries so I'm not sure that holds. Non capitalist attemots to make planes haven't gone that well.

Though you can regulate capitalism better. Encourage founders to run the things rather than buy out guys, have better trade unions and so on.

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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post #293

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It helps to give power to people who care about doing the right thing, instead of to people who don't care. Democracy tends towards the former, but capitalism tends towards the latter.

In this situation I don’t think you can attribute it to capitalism because Boeing is a defacto monopoly. Capitalism should lead to competition. Competition should lead to alternatives when one of the market participants has quality control issues.

Well, there's Airbus who compete. Everyone would probably be switching to them if they weren't sold out like ten years ahead.

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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post #293

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It helps to give power to people who care about doing the right thing, instead of to people who don't care. Democracy tends towards the former, but capitalism tends towards the latter.

In this situation I don’t think you can attribute it to capitalism because Boeing is a defacto monopoly. Capitalism should lead to competition. Competition should lead to alternatives when one of the market participants has quality control issues.

But doesn't that either disprove capitalism as an realistic working system or make an argument that the state have an obligation to protect the market by destroying large corporations before they become dominant.

A lot of the traditional critiques of capitalism have been that it will inevitable degrade back into mercantilism if the capitalist are not challenged by an democratic state and functional trade unions, but alowed to merge into large powerfull entities like google, Boeing, microsoft and Facebook.

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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post #293

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It helps to give power to people who care about doing the right thing, instead of to people who don't care. Democracy tends towards the former, but capitalism tends towards the latter.

In this situation I don’t think you can attribute it to capitalism because Boeing is a defacto monopoly. Capitalism should lead to competition. Competition should lead to alternatives when one of the market participants has quality control issues.

Unfortunately, "should" is doing some heavy lifting here...In reality, the constant requirement for MORE profit makes it so that every aspect of business or production, including quality control, is a slider conflicted with profit, and sacrificed until it needs to be corrected, as little as possible.

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

#348
post #61

I'm just going to take this story at face value, there's an infinite number of alternate explanations that I'd be powerless to talk about. I've had my own (thankfully brief) moments where I've thought about suicide just from the perception that my coworkers, my bosses, the entire world, just does not care about doing the right thing. Mr Barnett worked for the same company for over three decades and physically watched…

> I've had my own (thankfully brief) moments where I've thought about suicide just from the perception that my coworkers, my bosses, the entire world, just does not care about doing the right thing. Please share how you managed with this. I’ve been here for a few years - since I lost my wife - and some days I can barely hang on.

I have some experience with this. My advice is that these episodes come in waves and thus a simple yet vital rule has literally kept me alive: don't do it; this will pass. That plus therapy and a brief stint on antidepressants swung me from suicidal ideation to optimism.

I do think you have to watch your environment too. Just like alcoholics don't typically hang out in bars, we shouldn't hang out in places/jobs that depress us.

All of this is easier to say than do. I wish you the best.

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

#349

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yes, the K.. something. Mentioned in one of the latest Last Week Tonight episodes

https://www.kayak.com.au/flights Might need an account to access the filter, but that was the one shown.

Thanks a lot!

I hope Boeing goes bankrupt and a more careful competitor buys out their assets.

Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

#350
post #144

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I would not be surprised if dang wants to quietly get rid of this kind of topics. It is risky. It is a lot safer to criticize a president TBH.

Let's see if you still feel that way in 5 minutes. Edit: I'm tired and let my snark guard down—sorry. No, I don't want to "quietly get rid" of this kind of topic, except insofar as lurid sensationalism isn't what HN is for. This story is unusual enough that it gets a bit of a curiosity pass. "Riskiness" in any dark sinister sense doesn't play into any of this on the HN side. It's all boringly straightforward, with ju…

Thanks dang, sorry for thinking like that.
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