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Bluesky announces data federation for self hosters

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Re: Bluesky announces data federation for self hosters

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Does that mean after Bluesky reaches critical mass, it'll turn the federation off, like Google Chat killing its XMPP federation? For clarity: I'd love to see this comment and say "I was wrong" 5 or 10 years later.

… and if not, what the heck is the business model here?

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Re: Bluesky announces data federation for self hosters

#342
> Your Mastodon timeline is only made up of posts from accounts you follow, and does not pull together posts from the whole network like Bluesky’s custom feeds.

This seems like a major win for Mastodon. Bluesky is clearly spinning this as a positive, however, so what am I missing?

Re: Bluesky announces data federation for self hosters

#343

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Public = consent for the public to see it. That includes the public on Bluesky. It was consensual. And the ruckus was in fact about Bluesky in particular. That's why the same project already supported other protocols without a big ruckus . In general, "I want my stuff on Bluesky but don't want to deal with cross-posting to multiple different platforms and keeping up with responses on all of them" And, "I want my stuf…

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This is more like when you send an email to gmail.com, Google is allowed to forward the message to its intended recipient.

Re: Bluesky announces data federation for self hosters

#344

Does that mean after Bluesky reaches critical mass, it'll turn the federation off, like Google Chat killing its XMPP federation? For clarity: I'd love to see this comment and say "I was wrong" 5 or 10 years later.

If they can do that, then the whole federation idea is useless and just a theatre. But I don’t think Bluesky will ever reach critical mass anyway.

Re: Bluesky announces data federation for self hosters

#345

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It's really unfortunate that the tech companies set the precedent in the first place by pushing hard political agendas into their policies and moderation biases. If it was truly neutral in the first place we would not be having this conversation. All the people complaining only now about Twitter doing this are part of the problem.

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Stop with the straw men. That has nothing to do with the backstory of why he bought Twitter.

Re: Bluesky announces data federation for self hosters

#346

> Your Mastodon timeline is only made up of posts from accounts you follow, and does not pull together posts from the whole network like Bluesky’s custom feeds. This seems like a major win for Mastodon. Bluesky is clearly spinning this as a positive, however, so what am I missing?

These are optional things that you choose, and you can even write yourself. The default feeds are "posts of accounts you follow," just like Mastodon, so it's a positive because it's extra possibility on top.

As a meaningful example: someone (not BlueSky themselves, I don't believe) published a "Quiet Posters" feed. I have subscribed to that. Now, in addition to "Following," and "For You," I have a "Quiet Posters" feed. This exclusively shows posts by people who don't post very often. Since subscribing to it, I have seen a lot more content from the folks who aren't as chatty as the people who fill up my timeline. That's very nice.

Re: Bluesky announces data federation for self hosters

#347

When do you think Bluesky will be officially a broad public social media network? It seems rather niche at this point

What do you define as "broad"? I'm not going to claim BlueSky is mega popular, but to put a number on it, hit 5 million users today. That's not huge, but it's also not small.

Re: Bluesky announces data federation for self hosters

#348

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Even if it may be simple in some areas, it doesn't handle edge cases such as https://github.com/caddyserver/caddy/issues/1632 in other areas out of the box unlike other server software.

you have been repeatedly posting this incredibly niche complaint for years at this point

Is it possible you're vonfusing that user with me? I used to be relatively vocal about this issue on HN. For reference, that's not me.

And it's probably not niche if dozens of users are posting about it for years.

Re: Bluesky announces data federation for self hosters

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Unrelated to engineering but the recent rebrand to a dead butterfly logo[1][2][3] may be off brand for a platform wishing to communicate a more open, social Internet built on first principles and scientific rigor. [1] https://www.emilydamstra.com/please-enough-dead-butterflies/ [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14460013 [3] https://bsky.social/about/blog/12-21-2023-butterfly

Pedantic lepidopterists of the world, unite!

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