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Macs can now inform Apple if any liquids have been detected in the USB-C ports

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Re: Macs can now inform Apple if any liquids have been detected in the USB-C ports

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>They will even refuse to install a new battery if you pay them. On a phone with triggered water detector stickers? Yeah. Common sense. Why the hell would I work a device that might be damaged already? If something goes wrong after the repair due to the pre-existing damage it becomes a finger pointing game. Fuck that

It’s far more likely your repair damaged it in this situation than any pre-existing water “damage”.

They check the stickers before starting any work. Unless you think they’re opening it under a water mister, those are accurate indicators of past damage.

I know this because I had an iPhone display start acting odd shortly after a battery replacement. They opened it up and reported water damage, but the pictures they take before every repair showed that the same indicators were not triggered two days before, and I ended up getting a replacement phone because the water seal was probably effective for 5 years prior to the battery replacement.

Re: Macs can now inform Apple if any liquids have been detected in the USB-C ports

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This is not true. I fully submerged my phone in a pool and took video underwater and they replaced it under warranty.

Replaced it for what damage/failure ?

My iPhone (SE, 2nd gen) is used with reckless abandon in the bath and shower. I’ve dropped it in a river, even. (Very lucky it didn’t sink before I could grab it.)

I have had the battery replaced under warranty without issue.

Re: Macs can now inform Apple if any liquids have been detected in the USB-C ports

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The iPhone 12/13 Mini was substantially smaller, but few people bought it, so they cancelled it. The vast majority seem to want large screens. Currently the only compromise are flip phones. I considered buying the Z Flip 5, but the screen protector needs to be replaced by Samsung to maintain warranty and there is no Samsung Store nearby. I asked and Samsung said I'd have to send it to them, losing my phone for a coup…

> The iPhone 12/13 Mini was substantially smaller, but few people bought it I knew before scrolling down that such a comment would be there. an iphone costs easily 5x-7x more than an android phone. Most people just want a phone that can do messages, calls, and has a gps. There haven't been any non-overpriced smaller smartphones lately.

As someone who uses an iPhone SE, I have to disagree. I have a small phone with incredible internals at a price that can’t be be beat. You can go cheap as you want to on android for sure but you’re going to pay the price one way or the other. Having helped support people works budget android phones, it’s painful. I don’t use my phone like most people, I would never watch a video on my phone or use it extensively for general purpose computing by choice, but those budget android phones are disgustingly slow and stuffed to the gills with bloat.

The only pain point with my current phone is the camera is still effectively 10 year old hardware. I would like a nicer camera and I could probably find that on a similarly priced and sized android phone if I really wanted to I’ll admit. That said, I’m worried what the next generation of SE will end up being. I’m going to guess it’ll be physically bigger and I’ll have to say goodbye to TouchID (which I vastly prefer to FaceID). I love this phone otherwise and am in no hurry to replace it. Outside of the camera, the parts of its design that are stuck in the past are the things I love about it.

Flagship android phones from every major vendor are priced to compete with iPhones though and let’s not pretend otherwise. You can spend more on an android phone now than an iPhone if you’re so inclined.

Re: Macs can now inform Apple if any liquids have been detected in the USB-C ports

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> Dumb question: wouldn't non-conductive liquids be harmless? Mostly yes, except for things like concentrated sulfuric acid which is highly corrosive but a bad conductor.

I guess I won't be liquid cooling my setup with concentrated sulfuric acid then

Well, the device can't make heat if the device no longer exists I guess...

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Resistive touchscreens work ok in that kind of environment, can be used with gloves… but suck quite a bit otherwise. None of the fun multitouch stuff, just a single pressure point to click with

Old Rant: way back in the day Garmin made a capacitive touch screen watch for runners. Why did they think this was a good idea seeing that your hands would be sweaty and wet if you were running 2023 rant: if I press the button on my watch and tell Siri to “start swim workout” when I’m in the water, my watch still expects me to press a button on the screen while I’m in the water.

Do that finger pinch thing

Re: Macs can now inform Apple if any liquids have been detected in the USB-C ports

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Nobody really cares about audio quality any more. I used to, but I realised that my mid-40s ears are now the limiting factor, so I might as well have the convenience of wireless. The real problem isn't 'another device to charge' though, it's battery degradation and the wasteful, disposable nature of Airpods.

Can people really hear the difference between wired and unwired headphones? I find it hard to believe. The bandwidth that Bluetooth can provide should be sufficient for very high quality audio. I'm confused by this reply.

I don't believe codec makes meaningful difference. Most biggest difference should be by integrated small efficient amp vs bigger amp.

Re: Macs can now inform Apple if any liquids have been detected in the USB-C ports

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This is a feature of newer usb-c pd chipsets. See, e.g., https://www.ti.com/product/TPS25751 in the features section. Apple has historically used TI chipsets for their USB power controllers. The feature likely comes from this.

FWIW, liquid (pin-shortage) detection on the USB-port is a standard feature of all Smartphones with IPxx water-ingress certification. It prevents the device from applying/draining power from any pin in such a state, mainly to reduce corrosion of the contacts and increase longevity. (Without such a mechanism, an IPxx device may be unable to charge within a few weeks as the contacts of the connector can deteriorate qui…

Yes, it is, and most of them get it from the same chipsets :) They are not making their own, it's a function of the controller of the USB-C PD port they use.

Re: Macs can now inform Apple if any liquids have been detected in the USB-C ports

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If they decide to go down this path, someone in Australia will report them to the ACCC. If they are using it as an excuse to avoid their warranty obligations, then they will be sorry.

Your claim is that in Australia, you cannot offer a warranty that exempts water damage? I find that extremely hard to believe.

No, what I’m saying is that if they claim water damage based on those indicators alone, and they do it as a policy, then the ACCC will likely consider it a policy to avoid warranty claims.

If there is genuine water damage, of course that’s not warranty. It’s how they assess it that could be problematic.

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