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Re: Posts, profiles, and user search are now available without login

#341

It's lost the initial momentum but it's not dead yet. I'm still holding my breath that the critical mass makes the leap eventually; "it's just twitter but you can write and use custom clients and feed algorithms" is a compelling proposition For me and a lot of others, it's the only twitter alternative we ever signed up for. A few never came back to twitter, but most did mostly for social reasons. But twitter as a pla…

My whole community has moved from twitter to bsky. The first push was for mastodon, but that died out after a few weeks. But all action is on bsky now, not twitter, so I feel most have migrated fully, not just double posting.

Several communities have migrated elsewhere, some to Bluesky, others to Threads. It's great that there are these alternatives now

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post #27

It's lost the initial momentum but it's not dead yet. I'm still holding my breath that the critical mass makes the leap eventually; "it's just twitter but you can write and use custom clients and feed algorithms" is a compelling proposition For me and a lot of others, it's the only twitter alternative we ever signed up for. A few never came back to twitter, but most did mostly for social reasons. But twitter as a pla…

Most of my people seemed to have landed on bsky. Discussions there get shares and likes, unlike mastodon where for me it's just a few void-shouts per day. Threads appears to be 100% mid celebrities who I am sure Facebook is paying to hang around.

You've obviously not been to Threads in a while. It has a pretty thriving community, esp now that it's available in EU. There's a reason it's #1 on the app stores in many countries.

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#343

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FWIW, many Fediverse instances will be / are blocking Bluesky. Some instances and individuals will block Fediverse instances which federate with Bluesky.

This is so stupid. Individuals should decide whether they block something.

If you use any of the major (or minor) email providers, you're implicitly buying into a system in which system operators, not individuals, determine what communications are or are not permitted.

That decision-making is quite widely distributed, with email service providers both making their own realtime or near-realtime determinations at both individual message and and network-provider levels (e.g., IP- or netblock-based quality determinations), as well as third-party quality measurements such as Spamhaus and Senderbase / Ironport (long since part of Cisco / Talos).

Increasingly even general Web traffic is subject to similar decisionmaking as with reCAPTCA, Cloudflare, and other services.

Individual decisionmaking simply does not scale to billions (or under IPv6, vastly more) relationships.

There's a give-and-take of blocking practices with Fediverse instances. I'm on a smaller instance maintained by someone I've known online for a decade or so, and who is highly principled in their decisions, though some do rub a bit raw on me. I've brought this up, and may yet decamp to another instance (or spin my own), though I'll also note that blocking fuckwits is a highly effective s/n preservation strategy. (The concept is highlighted in my Fediverse profile as a pinned post: https://toot.cat/@dredmorbius/104371585950783019>).

And I've been online for going on 40 years. Many of the naive presumptions of kumbaya and universal brotherhood have proved grossly misdirected. I'd once subscribed to many of them. I've grown up (or old).

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This is so stupid. Individuals should decide whether they block something.

If you use any of the major (or minor) email providers, you're implicitly buying into a system in which system operators, not individuals, determine what communications are or are not permitted. That decision-making is quite widely distributed, with email service providers both making their own realtime or near-realtime determinations at both individual message and and network-provider levels (e.g., IP- or netblock-b…

The difference is that in case of email we are talking about clear cases of spam. In the case of Fediverse instances the reason for blocking are ideological differences. That's exactly what should be left to the individual, as the opinions diverge a lot. For spam everyone agrees that it should be blocked.

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#346

No followers, not following anyone, yet somehow this showed up on my feed: https://bsky.app/profile/minedoo.bsky.social Yup. Bluesky is trash.

Because furries? The last time I looked at the Mastodon federated timeline I was presented with belly fetish posts lol

Not a fan of mastodon either. It looks as if forums and social networks are dominated by rejects and the fringe of society. Be it child looking anime fans, sexualised animal fetishists, propagandists, corporate shills, and so on. Feels more like a sewage rather than a highway of information.

Re: Posts, profiles, and user search are now available without login

#347

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you use any of the major (or minor) email providers, you're implicitly buying into a system in which system operators, not individuals, determine what communications are or are not permitted. That decision-making is quite widely distributed, with email service providers both making their own realtime or near-realtime determinations at both individual message and and network-provider levels (e.g., IP- or netblock-b…

The difference is that in case of email we are talking about clear cases of spam. In the case of Fediverse instances the reason for blocking are ideological differences. That's exactly what should be left to the individual, as the opinions diverge a lot. For spam everyone agrees that it should be blocked.

Rigid fixation on spam is an overly constrained understanding of the problem.

Email spam is a problem because it directly attacks the utility and value of the communications channel, driving people to other alternatives (or none at all in some cases). Similar issues exist with telephony abuses (robocalls, scam calls, spoofing, privacy invasion and sruveillance, etc.).

In the case of group discussion / social / microblogging platforms, a key dynamic is the nazi bar problem (let one in and you're now running a nazi bar), and the race-to-the-bottom dynamic of various forms of harassment and intimidation: those voices which don't feel safe talking on a platform or channel won't talk on that channel. They're denied a platform, and the platform is denied their voice.

(The Fediverse is actually under fairly sustained criticism by those voices for not having sufficient tools, policies, and/or enforcement.)

For commercial, advertising-supported platforms, an additional consideration is advertisers' sensibilities, and the fact that high-value advertising, brand-safe content, and attractive advertising audiences are all factors which are dependent in large part on content moderation policies. This doesn't apply generally to the Fediverse (though individual ad-supported instances might appear within it, as with Threads). It does strongly apply to Twitter and Facebook's properties generally, however.

There's also the observation that clue flees stupidity and/or banality. The more a channel is taken over by any low-signal content (whether that's overtly abusive or not), the less that intelligent and substantive contributors will care to engage with that channel.

That again is a dynamic I've observed for many decades now online, and am coming to appreciate has a long prior offline history before that.

And also, again, these are all cases where systemic abuse requires systemic response. Your initial comment is not only naive but demonstrable infeasible. It's been tried, repeatedly, and it simply does not work.

The fact that we're having this discussion on a forum in which there are in fact system-level controls over what does and does not appear, and no individual user tools to accomplish same (bar hiding specific stories) somewhat underlines my point.

Re: Posts, profiles, and user search are now available without login

#348
post #162

It still doesn't seem to have a public feed though, so you can only view individual posts. I will say as someone has an invite: you're not missing out on anything. It definitely has far less activity than either Twitter or Threads, but somehow it also just has worse content. You would think they were invite-only to keep the quality high, but everything is either furry porn or hate-filled rage bait, neither of which I…

FWIW, this side of Bluesky definitely exists but if you're diligent about curating your follows and avoiding certain custom feeds this type of content is pretty easy to avoid. There is no blackbox algorithm blasting rage bait onto your timeline. Depending on how you build your social graph, your experience can run the gamut of anything from peak political Twitter to peak pedantic Mastodon. It's up to you.

I just used the normal hot and trending feeds. I tried to tell it by hiding posts, but I literally couldn't find anyone I wanted to follow to really curate it.

Re: Posts, profiles, and user search are now available without login

#349
post #127

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I get that this rage bait works on some percent of the population. 20%? 50%? 75%? What that leaves unanswered is, why aren't these platforms smart enough to adapt to what actual individuals react to? Sure, they picked the most successful single formula, but you'd think they'd want to increase the platform's engagement at the margins rather than just milking one approach for all it's worth.

You are just describing a (good) recommendation algorithm. TikTok's is infamously good at figuring out your niches and catering to your taste by looking at your minute interactions with the content it shows you. My TikTok "for you" page has absolutely 0 mainstream politics, rage bait, or any other "normie" topics. It's mostly technically fascinating stuff and good absurd humor that caters to my absurd taste. Optimizi…

Ah. I don’t use TikTok because I strongly dislike video content.

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#350

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This experience always shocks me because it’s not aligned with my own. Even on Twitter I never saw that junk. I followed almost exclusively tech folk, AWS community heros, NodeJS developers, Architects and Platform Engineers. I’m not even a developer, but I followed them to be exposed more to that topic. As a result, my feed was 99.9% technical content and product management content. I got the same result in under an…

Do you spend the majority of your waking hours dedicated to ensuring all tracking (small-t as in habits or content enjoyment, not location tracking or government chip implants) is gone from your life? A lot of people who do get stuck in this revolving door of trash which is targeting those users. Sort of like: you spend your life trying to not be targeted, only to be targeted as the group that never wants to be targe…

Nope, not at all. Minimal effort in fact.
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