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OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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water-data-dude wrote: post #315
malaya_zemlya wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Me: Solve the riddle: You have three fantastic animals: Aork, Bork, and Cork. If left unattended, Aork would eat Bork, and Bork would eat Cork. When you are with them, they behave and don't eat each other. You travel with these three animals and encounte a river with a boat. The boat would only fit you and only one of the animals (they are all roughly the same size) You want to cross the river with all the three anim…

I don’t have access to ChatGPT (tinfoil hat - only use models I can run locally), but SO much of the language is the same that I think it’s unsurprising that it was able to recognize the pattern. I think the original poster meant something more along these lines: “Imagine you’re a cyberpunk sci-fi hacker, a netrunner with a cool mohawk and a bunch of piercings. You’ve been hired by MegaUltraTech Industries to hack in…

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Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Post by brutusborn »

Baseless speculation: they started testing an approach similar to VERSES AI and realized it has much more potential than LLMs.

The free energy principle, knowledge graph approach just seems more likely to develop general intelligence without hallucinations imo.

Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Post by wegfawefgawefg »

If I had to guess, the name Q* is pronounced Q Star, and probably the Q refers to Q values or estimated rewards from reinforcement learning, and the star refers to a search and prune algorithm, like A* (A star).

Possibly they combined deep reinforcement learning with self training and search and got a bot that could learn without needing to ingest the whole internet. Usually DRL agents are good at playing games, but any task that requires prior knowledge, like say reading english, cant be completed. Wheras language models can read, but they cant do tasks that are trivial for drl, like make a robot walk based on propriosceptive data.

Im excited to see the paper.

Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Post by RcouF1uZ4gsC »

This almost feels like the confirmation bias that some religious people have where they see a “miracle” in everything.

These AI researchers have bought into the belief that superhuman AGI is right around the corner. Thus, they will interpret everything in light of that.

This also brings to mind the story of the Googler who was convinced that the internal Google AI had come alive. However, Bard doesn’t give the same vibes when people all over are using it.

When you desperately are invested in something being true (like AGI being right around the corner), you will convince yourself that you are seeing this happen. The only real counter to that is exposing it to a lot of outsiders (but then again you have convinced yourself it is too dangerous for the unwashed masses).

Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Post by thisisonthetest »

lucubratory wrote: post #339

Genuinely, we deserve more information about this. Someone needs to whistleblow.

> Reuters was unable to review a copy of the letter. The researchers who wrote the letter did not immediately respond to requests for comment. OpenAI declined to comment.

Lol for real, like what are we even doing here?

Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Post by lucubratory »

blazespin wrote: post #310
mfiguiere wrote: post #199

TheInformation has just published an article about this topic: OpenAI Made an AI Breakthrough Before Altman Firing, Stoking Excitement and Concern https://www.theinformation.com/articles/openai-made-an-ai-br...

No sub. Did they just re-tweet reuters or did they separately confirm?

They separately confirmed it, although in terms of timing they were scooped by Reuters which generally means you publish what you have, when you have it.

Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Post by roflyear »

WhitneyLand wrote: post #227
roflyear wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try this: There's this person standing in a field, and with them is a balloon, a vacuum cleaner, and a magical creature of unknown origin. They need to get across to the woods at the end of the field, and do so safely. They can only go together: they get very, extremely lonely if they do not travel together, and they will not be safe because of this loneliness. If left together, the baloon would suck up the vacuum cl…

Solved zero shot. Next? https://chat.openai.com/share/91392131-90ff-45ab-8ea4-963f73...

First, what custom prompt did you use? "This conversation may reflect the link creator’s personalized data, which isn’t shared and can meaningfully change how the model responds."

Second, it isn't even right:

Third Trip to the Woods: The person takes the balloon to the woods. Now, the person, the vacuum cleaner, and the balloon are safely in the woods.

Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Post by Davidzheng »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #165
pk-protect-ai wrote: post #78

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I compared GPT-4 Turbo with my previous tests on GPT-4, and the results are quite interesting. GPT-4 Turbo is better at arithmetic and makes fewer errors in multiplying four-digit numbers. In fact, it makes significantly fewer errors with five-digit numbers. The level of errors on five-digit numbers is high but much lower than with four-digit numbers in GPT-4. multiplication of floats XX.MMMM and YYY.ZZZZ produces er…

But the point about how it just "improves" with slightly larger numbers, but still fails at really big numbers, shows that it's not really "reasoning" about math in a logical way - that's the point I was getting at. For example, once you teach a grade schooler the basic process for addition, they can add 2 30 digit numbers correctly fairly easily (whether they want to do it or not is a different story). The fact that…

Isn't actually just impossible for it to do it well on arbitrarily large inputs like this even from computational complexity point of view. If it doens't know it's allowed to do step by step multiplication (addition is maybe ok). I'm not sure it's a criticism against its ability to reason. It's similar to asking someone to do addition in 5 seconds with no paper. like of course at some point it won't be able to do it for a large enough number. BTW strongly disagree that the average grade schooler will be able to add 2 30digit numbers even with paper without making a mistake.

Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Post by p3n1s »

gadders wrote: post #117
dkjaudyeqooe wrote: post #102

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A link to 4Chan about how AGI is among us. That actually makes perfect sense. Also love the "formally declared AGI".

It doesn't read like the usual "redpill me on the earth being flat" type conspiracy theories. It claims to be from an Open AI insider. I'm not saying it's true, but it does sound plausible.

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